how much did you cry ?

[Mroni]

Japan has always been a very proud nation. Its my observation that this pride is rightfully justified. Japanese workers don't work for themselves as much as they work for the company. Its always been this way, its engrained into them, a cultural system that goes back at least centuries. They have always had strong national pride, and based on productivity, its easy to see why.

Japan took defeat in WWII very hard. Its still stunning to me how this country literally rose out of the ashes (literally) to become the worlds second most powerful economic superpower. Last I checked, the average standard of Living is actually higher in Japan than it is in the U.S. Just another reason I need to visit Japan sometime during my lifetime.

Well anyway, I didn't mean to offend anyone with my story. I didn't make it up, its quite true, and I've come to accept the transgressions of the past. I don't find it at all funny, although I was kind of joking when I said my grandfathers spirit might strangle me. The truth is his legacy does leave a dark cloud on my family, especially on topics related to WWII and Japan, and especially both. I realize that this all happened long before I was born, before my father was born in fact, and thus neither myself or any of my surviving relatives are in any way responsible for his actions, therefore I feel no reason to be ashamed of it.

Seriously are you on crack. We own the majority of most major japanese companies they have been in a economic slump for 15 years. They do not have a higher standard of living than us either.


Mr Oni

[Brsrk]

THANK YOU!!! I thought I was the only person who felt that way.

God I feel like a sap.

I think it's perfectly natural to do that... it's how ther pesron reacts to whatever it is...

[Kearly]

Seriously are you on crack. We own the majority of most major japanese companies they have been in a economic slump for 15 years. They do not have a higher standard of living than us either.
Mr Oni

No, just getting my college education. It is true that they have been in one hell of a lengthy recession, but they do have the worlds second largest Gross Domestic Product, its almost exactly half of ours with less than half of our population. And I was actually surprised to find out the standard of living fact, it came out of my upper level Human Geography Class Textbook here at my University (it was published recently). I think the reason for the SoL statistic is because of Job security and company loyalty. Another factor is the fact that American SoL is overrated, its actually a lot lower than most people think when you consider the total population, not just the middle class (we actually score pretty high in several poverty categories among the Industrial nations, including being number 1 in child poverty). The fact is that a few of the leading industrial nations are all pretty comparable in terms of average SoL. I think a heavy contributing factor is that many industrial nations are more socialist than america (the poor live in better conditions, etc) When all the factors are considered, it actually ceased to be a shock.

Whether or not Americans own a majority of Japanese business I do not know, it wouldnt surprise me, not really (I mean, who built them up after WWII? We did), but I don't see how it relates to your point.

[Mroni]

Only that these aquisitions have been made since 1990. in the 80s american companies were being bought out left and right by the japs it's exactly opposite now. Company loyalty is not what it used to be either as jap automakers have been laying off people that were susposed to have guaranteed jobs for life.



Mr Oni

[Mroni]

Oh yeah and lol sorry everyone for going off on some tangent. Another anime that made me wet my eyes was the one were the cute red haired girl gets hit by the car and wakes up 3 years later and her boyfreind is fucking her best friend and shes trying so hard to get up. I can't pronounce or remember that god awful name sorry. It's a really sad anime though.


Mr Oni

[angelx03]

Oh yeah and lol sorry everyone for going off on some tangent. Another anime that made me wet my eyes was the one were the cute red haired girl gets hit by the car and wakes up 3 years later and her boyfreind is fucking her best friend and shes trying so hard to get up. I can't pronounce or remember that god awful name sorry. It's a really sad anime though.


Mr Oni

That would be Kimi Ga Nozomo Eien. Good series, but those two waitresses were kinda of annoying.

[Kearly]

Only that these aquisitions have been made since 1990. in the 80s american companies were being bought out left and right by the japs it's exactly opposite now. Company loyalty is not what it used to be either as jap automakers have been laying off people that were susposed to have guaranteed jobs for life.

It is true that we have been sending jobs overseas like crazy as of late (last 3 years), which is probably the biggest reason for Bush's Unemployment crisis. For all the negative things we discuss about Japan's economy there invariably must be some positive elements at work that we're just not educated about, because the fact remains that despite a long recession Japan still has the 2nd highest GDP in the world and a higher SoL (admittably its close) than us. Japan has a reputation for Job security, efficiency, and company loyalty. But these are fairly unscientific, I don't have explicit data which tells me this, or tells me how much of an impact its having on SoL or GDP. What I can tell you is that after studying Economic geography in detail, their GDP is strong and so is their standard of living. Its right in the textbook. Textbooks are written by proffesors and are created from dozens of scholastic/research journals and other high credibility sources. For these reasons Textbooks are considered very credible sources of information.

But even outside my education, I already knew that Japan was a formidable economic superpower, its been that way for the longest time. Well thats all for that rant. You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.

Sorry everyone for sidetracking the thread.

Oh yeah and lol sorry everyone for going off on some tangent.

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[Cloud Clone]

dint know really dude........anyhow, theres when wolfwood died............ that was seriously tragic.............finaly finds happiness in his dismal crappy life....... and dies.................

about the eva thing, never said it made me cry, it was just kinda sad.............


germany didnt lose the war the same way japan did..............

I didn't cry whaen he died, but I later heard the song that played during his death scene and that got a tear or 2. Poor Wolfwood... [/quote]

[Mroni]

Oh yeah and lol sorry everyone for going off on some tangent. Another anime that made me wet my eyes was the one were the cute red haired girl gets hit by the car and wakes up 3 years later and her boyfreind is fucking her best friend and shes trying so hard to get up. I can't pronounce or remember that god awful name sorry. It's a really sad anime though.


Mr Oni

That would be Kimi Ga Nozomo Eien. Good series, but those two waitresses were kinda of annoying.

Yes good series but in the end i was disapointed because I wanted the red haired girl to throw the blue haired girl in front of car and cripple her and then through her in the ocean cause she is a whore.


Mr Oni

[Nestorath69]

N0 t34rz f0r m3. 1 4m t00 l33t.