YuYUHakisho ***SPOILERS***

*inverse* · Post by ***inverse*** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:51 pm

^__^;; Sorry 'bout that!

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:52 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:So *inverse*, were you in a contest to see how many Yu Yu Hakusho spoilers you could throw out at people without warning, or what?

Aside from saying which episodes Kurama transforms in, and mentioning an episode where he says 'die,' she didn't give any specific spoilers. Most Kurama fans know when he transforms for the first time (even the ones who've yet to see the anime have at least read about his youko form - that's half the reason fans like his character). If anything, she just pointed out which episodes Kurama fans should buy to see 'cool' things featuring him. And for an anime with 112 episodes, that sort of information is great to have.

If I were to say "Oh, I'm a Yusuke fan, I love that great thing that happens to him in episode 1" - that's not a spoiler, it's an episode recommendation. There is a difference.

*inverse* · Post by ***inverse*** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:57 pm

Thanks, Arigatomyna...I get carried away sometimes

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:05 pm

*inverse* wrote:Thanks, Arigatomyna...I get carried away sometimes

Heh, I'm just amazed that you remembered which episodes were the ones featuring cool Kurama action. I usually stick to 'toward the end of this arc,' or 'after this happens in the anime - it's a few episodes after that' and all sorts of vague things. I don't even know off-hand which episodes start each of the arcs in the series. ^_^;;

BTW - when I asked if you were shocked during that scene with Kurama, what I really meant was

spoilers wrote:Were you shocked that they actually killed the little boy. I couldn't believe it when he actually *died*. I mean, they had great drama building up to it, dealing with Kurama's guilt and fury over what was going to happen because of him, but I didn't think they'd actually kill him off. And you don't find out that he's really okay until later, so through that entire Sensui fight I was in semi-shock over the fact that YYH actually killed an innocent little human boy. And that they made *Kurama* do it - that's as bad as if they'd made Kuwa do it. The only saving grace was Hiei's expression when he was watching Kurama, and then later when he looks down at the boy's body. Very shocking to me, but great angsty fanservice. Not to mention having a furiously cold Kurama is always cool. ^.~

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:05 pm

Arigatomyna wrote: Aside from saying which episodes Kurama transforms in, and mentioning an episode where he says 'die,' she didn't give any specific spoilers.

"in ep 38 when he dramatically defeats Touya"

Really, you don't get too much more specific than that. o_O

Most Kurama fans know when he transforms for the first time (even the ones who've yet to see the anime have at least read about his youko form - that's half the reason fans like his character). If anything, she just pointed out which episodes Kurama fans should buy to see 'cool' things featuring him. And for an anime with 112 episodes, that sort of information is great to have.

If I were to say "Oh, I'm a Yusuke fan, I love that great thing that happens to him in episode 1" - that's not a spoiler, it's an episode recommendation. There is a difference.

No, that is a spoiler actually. It seems to have skipped you that, *gasp*, some people haven't seen the series or have only seen up to a certain episode. A few lil things here and there probably don't matter too much, but when you start specifying exact episode numbers with the outcomes of battles...yeah, probably you should use spoiler tags.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:13 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:"in ep 38 when he dramatically defeats Touya"

Yeah, this one would be a spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen action anime and actually expects the main good guy to lose a battle. I'll give you that one. ;p

If I were to say "Oh, I'm a Yusuke fan, I love that great thing that happens to him in episode 1" - that's not a spoiler, it's an episode recommendation. There is a difference.
No, that is a spoiler actually. It seems to have skipped you that, *gasp*, some people haven't seen the series or have only seen up to a certain episode.

Now you're just being anal, and you know it. I could say 'that great thing that happens to Yusuke in episode 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 - all the way to 112' and it doesn't tell crap about what actually happens in any of those episodes, let-alone anything people watching the anime won't already know. Yusuke is in every single episode. Something happens to him in every single episode. What you're saying is that to say "I love YYH because Yusuke is in it" is a spoiler. And that's just being dumb. You're not dumb. Anal, sure, but not dumb. How about this one?

I like episode 112 because the anime ends! Mwahahaha! I spoiled it all!

How's that for a spoiler. I just told people what episode the anime ends on. :: shocker :: You don't have to watch the anime to know how many episodes it is. And if you think knowing what episode is the last is a spoiler, you should stop watching anime that has been completed. Sorry, but some things even the spoiler-shy people need to take for granted. Like knowing that the main character in any anime - any! - is almost always going to be shown in the first episode of that anime. It's not a spoiler, it's common sense. Sorry to disagree with you. ^_^

*inverse* · Post by ***inverse*** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:27 pm

-_-; Sorry, ok? I forgot that lot's of kids havn't seen the show yet.

Anyways, I completely forgot about that episode!! But the thing is, the particular version I had was a fansub with bleached video quality, and very poor subs. And by poor subs, I mean:

spoilers wrote:I don't have an example from that specific ep, but an example would be when Botan is watching Kurama fight Karasu, she thinks "I don't want to take any of my friends to the reikai again, etc" - the subtitle read "This taste" O.o - Another example, the translation would switch names around, as in Kurama = Hiei and vise versa
-_-;

And it has been a really long time since I watched it ^__^;

But, to answer your question, YA I was shocked. I was expecting some kind of interuption, or basically something that would stop the whole "duel" - I really didn't expect "that" to happen.

spoilers wrote:But it all turns out good in the end ^__^ He comes back to life, right?

*sigh* I'd love to see those episodes again....but I do get to see some of those scenes in your vids - it helps

Wheee_It's_Me! · Post by **Wheee_It's_Me!** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:41 pm

Arigatomyna wrote: Yeah, this one would be a spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen action anime and actually expects the main good guy to lose a battle. I'll give you that one. ;p

You must not have actually seen the series, there are quite a few battles in which the good guys didn't win.

Now you're just being anal, and you know it. I could say 'that great thing that happens to Yusuke in episode 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 - all the way to 112' and it doesn't tell crap about what actually happens in any of those episodes, let-alone anything people watching the anime won't already know. Yusuke is in every single episode. Something happens to him in every single episode. What you're saying is that to say "I love YYH because Yusuke is in it" is a spoiler. And that's just being dumb. You're not dumb. Anal, sure, but not dumb.

I thought you were refering to specific details, for example:

Spoilters wrote: In episode 43 Yuske's spirit beast hatches and he's embarassed cause it's cute and adorable.

If you meant generalities like saying, "That funny and embarassing thing that happens to Yuske in episode 43", that's probably okay.

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:44 pm

*inverse wrote:
spoilers wrote:But it all turns out good in the end ^__^ He comes back to life, right?
*sigh* I'd love to see those episodes again....but I do get to see some of those scenes in your vids - it helps

Heh, that's one of my favorite parts in the anime - aside from the Hiei-centric sections, of course. ;p

But to answer that -

spoilers wrote:Yeah, he comes back. After Sensui dies and Yusuke asks Koenma to bring him back, Koenma tells him he doesn't have the power left to do that. He explains that he brought the boy back (this is the first time you learn that he is no longer dead and that Kurama won't be sentenced for killing a human - remember, no matter what the reason is, if a demon kills a human, they're imprisoned forever - that's why Botan wanted Yusuke to stop Hiei from killing the guy who'd been holding Yukina. But anyway, Koenma tells them that he brought the boy back. And since he'd used what was left of his ring trying to bind Sensui, he didn't have anything left to bring Sensui back to life (the pacifier he'd been collecting energy in - no wonder he kept it in his mouth at all times ;p ). So it's a good thing he brought the boy back before he went on through the cave or Kurama would have been imprisoned and we'd never have had the Makai arc. o.O

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:48 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:You must not have actually seen the series, there are quite a few battles in which the good guys didn't win.

Yeah, but I figure - anyone who has seen enough of YYH to know who Touya is, would have seen enough to know that the chances of a good guy loosing aren't very good - there's a distinct pattern - Kurama and Hiei are the 'cool' ones, not the 'Vegeta' characters of the anime. ^_^;

If you meant generalities like saying, "That funny and embarassing thing that happens to Yuske in episode 43", that's probably okay.

Yeah, you replied to my statement about something 'cool' happening to Yusuke in the first episode with "but that *is* a spoiler" so it sounded like you were saying even generalities are spoilers. I couldn't agree with that. ;p

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