Fanfiction writers

Nestorath69 · Post by **Nestorath69** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:57 pm

I never saw AMV's as pressure free activity. I've always seen AMV's as a pure medium where one could express a single pure emotion, idea, or opinion with as much clarity as possible, like hearing a crystal clear bell note and knowing because of it, that everything is right, and perfect. Like a haiku. Visual effects, audio effects, that's a candy coated topping, really. but it's also an extension of the creator's will, in that you use the effects to solidify and justify what it is that you're trying to tell/ show.

Based on what you've said, I do see the validity of your arguement, (And indeed, I think it'd be fun if we could continue this, but it'd take too long, and the thread might end up locked) and give you credit where it is deserved. Kudos to you. (Thumbs up!) I, however, can't support it.

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:34 am

I've seen some AMV's in my life, like eveyone on this fourm but i've never took the time to make any myself.

Blitzkrieg1701 · Post by **Blitzkrieg1701** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:55 am

Once again, the whole of fanfic writting is being blamed for the faults of certain individuals. SOME people *waves hands and points at self* take their fan fictions just as seriously as you do your "real" stories. If others don't, it's not because of the nature of fanfics, it's because they're tallentless hacks; and they'd be tallentless hacks no matter what they wrote.

sunandshadow · Post by **sunandshadow** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:11 pm

Nestorath69 wrote:I write original fiction, I've been doing it for over a decade. My influences have been from dozens of different writers...

Gee, me too. Difference is, I _also_ write fanfiction. Writing fanfiction is excellent practice for writing original fiction because:

1) You get actual feedback! (Fanfic is not for those who don't have social lives - fanfic _is_ a social activity, and most fanfic writers have good social skills.

2) You get to look at how a variety of writers tackle the same subject.

3) With the initial exposition and character development taken care of by the cannon, you can focus on practicing plot and style; or, you can introduce an original character and focus on developing just that character; or, you can write an AU and focus on just delivering the orienting exposition... Perhaps you're familiar with the concept of programming sandboxes? It's a lot like that.

Something that is as powerful as original fiction, Something that requires long hours of sweat and labor, sleepless nights, tons of caffiene and nicotene, A true work of passion and effort, all culminating in a finished product which may or may not live up under the public scrutiny, that's real. Real writers know what I'm talking about when I speak of the giddy rush of energy you feel after you've completed a particularly heavy piece of work, and it's DONE. Like AMV's, but better.

If you don't suffer, if the story doesn't hold a tangible weight and value for you, then it's not real. If the story comes out and you have doubts about showing it to anyone, you've cheated the story, and failed as the medium. There is your value as the teller, There is the value in the effort you put in to tell the story true.

Ah, so you belong to the masochist school of writing.

IMHO, writing any kind of fiction is not supposed to involve suffering. It often does, because one's talent or experience is not quite equal to the task one has attempted, and evrybody falls prey to the agonies of writer's block now and then, but if writing fiction wasn't inherently enjoyable to at least some extent people wouldn't keep coming back to do it some more.

I've been working on an original novel for more than a year now, and I do it because I enjoy it - I love my characters, I laugh at their misadventures, I share in their triumphs, I help them survive their pains and become stronger people because of them... the story definitely holds a tangible weight and value for me, it is the result of passion and effort, but there's no suffering involved. And guess what? I feel exactly the same about what I want whether it's fanfiction or original fiction. There's no difference between the process of writing one and the process of writing the other.

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 9:19 am

Once again, the whole of fanfic writting is being blamed for the faults of certain individuals. SOME people *waves hands and points at self* take their fan fictions just as seriously as you do your "real" stories. If others don't, it's not because of the nature of fanfics, it's because they're tallentless hacks; and they'd be tallentless hacks no matter what they wrote.

Well I take my fiction very seriously to a point that i devote a lot of my free time to it.

Blitzkrieg1701 · Post by **Blitzkrieg1701** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:26 pm

Okay. Please mentally alter my post to read: *waves hands and points at us*

Cloud Clone · Post by **Cloud Clone** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:21 pm

I mentioned on the first page that I once attempted to create something like a Trigun/Cowboy Bebop manga but I didn't get far. I'll admit that I don't think I have much talent for writing (Or maybe it's just unexpressed?) but the real reason I didn't finish was because I had no real motivation to complete it. I might perhaps be interested in creating an AMV or fanfic someday, but only if I had nothing else to do. If you like to write, that's great. It just doesn't hold my interest for long...so would anyone like to write my crossover fanfic!? That would be sooooo cool. I have a plot device that makes it possible for the worlds to crossover and a basic storyline and everything, but what I really need is a talented writer to put everything together in a well-conveyed piece of literature. Anyone up for it?

Karou_ken · Post by **Karou_ken** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 pm

Im making an Inuyasha fanfic but it isnt done yet.

Nicky_san · Post by **Nicky_san** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:07 am

i write fanfiction.mostly yaoi/shounen ai though^.^;;
(gotsta have my yaoi^^)
i'm in the process of writing 3 right now,all at the same time.YARG,the confusion of writing 3 at once,i think i'll drop 1 or 2 for now 'til i finish with another.

Excalibur00 · Post by **Excalibur00** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:09 am

I never likd Youi fics, i have nothing against the writers of thm, but it just seems too awkward for me...let me show u an essay that someone else wrote...

"I do believe that where Gundam W suffers the most is its lack of romance. All the other Gundam series have a strong romance subplot that pull the viewer deeper into the main plot. Why the directors deliberately cut out any hint of romance in GW, we'll never truly know, since they're notorious for dodging the question. They are quoted as saying in interviews that they want the fans to make their "own interpretation" and that is probably the reason for much of the GW yaoi out there. I'm not against yaoi by any means. I wrote fanfiction for Weiss Kreuz and Tokyo Babylon for a while and I still write Fushigi Yuugi and jrock fanfiction. I just believe that there is more to Gundam Wing than yaoi, and that the yaoi has caused many people to not be able to grasp the true meaning of the series. I don't blame the creators, nor do I blame the fans. It's something that just happens, I suppose, but there is a serious deficiency in the Gundam W fan community of discussion relating to the nitty gritty political/military and philosophical questions that drew me to the series in the first place. Even a round-robin discussion on mecha specs would be nice. (I admit it, I'm a mecha head. I watch Macross. In class, I doodle pictures of starfighters in the margins of my notes. I play flight simulators on my computer. I'm in the Air Force. Give me a break. ^_~)" END OF QOUTE. by a writer in the name of Gerald Tarrant, commentary of his fanfic on his website http://www.midnightrevolution.org/gundam/intro.html