whats all the fuss about naruto?

Banana_Boat · Post by **Banana_Boat** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:24 pm

sayde wrote:I understand, but how many of them end up being as long as naruto with absolutely no sign of ending anytime soon? I mean at this rate, Naruto looks like it'll make 400 episodes before an ending is even in sight. That was kind of my main point. Shows like that seem to become pretty popular for one reason or another. Granted, I'm not an anime expert, and I know I haven't seen anywhere close to the amount of anime as others, but I'm willing to bet, Naruto has easilly got the potential to be one of (if not THE) longest running anime ever. I mean how many series can actually get away with showing around 100 eps of nothing but filler? lol

i doubt naruto will ever get remotley close to 400 eps. It doesnt have the potential....the closest anime to get to that many eps is dbz, and dbz is god compared to naruto.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:30 pm

If the merchandising is still there they'll keep going and milk it for all it's worth. You have to realize, the target audiance is young children with no sence of taste. They're not stopping watching it because of the filler. The complaints about it are coming from the people that watch the fansubs who are (comparitivly) not giving the production company any revenue, so why should they give two shits what they think?

sayde · Post by **sayde** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:37 pm

Banana_Boat wrote:i doubt naruto will ever get remotley close to 400 eps. It doesnt have the potential....the closest anime to get to that many eps is dbz

It's almost up to it's 200th episode. The manga's still going strong with no sign of ending, plus Naruto's streak of fillers will be coming to an end pretty soon which will bring back A LOT of viewers. Regardless of how you feel about the show, there's a lot to back up the rationale behind it making 400 eps or more.

Oh yeah, and btw,

Banana_Boat wrote:dbz is god compared to naruto.

^^
In your opinion.

Lortenian · Post by **Lortenian** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:22 pm

[quote]

i doubt naruto will ever get remotley close to 400 eps. It doesnt have the potential....the closest anime to get to that many eps is dbz, and dbz is god compared to naruto.[/quote]]

There are 291 episode of DBZ (4 sagas, including 2 TV specials, and 13 movies), but if you include the uncut episodes they took out for the kiddy winkies, there are a lot more episodes.

No offense to you naruto fans out there, I love ya and all...but I concur with Banana Boat.

[quote]It's almost up to it's 200th episode. The manga's still going strong with no sign of ending, plus Naruto's streak of fillers will be coming to an end pretty soon which will bring back A LOT of viewers.[/quote]

Now, with Dragonball Z (which was going strong as well and became one of the best anime shows), I'm sure every DBZ fan agrees with me that right after the Cel Saga, the show began to nosedive and it started losing viewers. That's because the ORIGINAL (Japanese) creator of the show wanted to stop the show after the Cel Saga (which woud've been an awesome ending, even if there weren't that many episodes), but some other dudes in [i]America [/i]took it up and made the retarded Buu Saga where it seemed to last FOREVER AND EVER, hardly making any progress, which lost the interest of many. I'm sure that Naruto is continuing strong because the same creator of the show hasn't dumped it, leaving it for others to take over. My main point is that, if the creator of DBZ kept it up, the show would've kept chugging along and wouldn't have have weakened as it did. Figures, some idiots JUST HAD to take DBZ and ruin it.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:26 pm

uh... what?!?! DBZ ended in Japan like 10 years ago... it wasn't even on cartoon network when all the stuff you claim American audiances wanted was actually made.

sayde · Post by **sayde** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:36 pm

^^Yup. By the time the garlic junior saga was being aired in america for the first time, the DBZ saga was already over and done with in japan. I think GT was too.

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:38 am

[quote="Lortenian"]Now, with Dragonball Z (which was going strong as well and became one of the best anime shows), I'm sure every DBZ fan agrees with me that right after the Cel Saga, the show began to nosedive and it started losing viewers. That's because the ORIGINAL (Japanese) creator of the show wanted to stop the show after the Cel Saga (which woud've been an awesome ending, even if there weren't that many episodes), but some other dudes in America took it up and made the retarded Buu Saga where it seemed to last FOREVER AND EVER, hardly making any progress, which lost the interest of many.quote]
actually, i'm pretty sure that Toriyama originally ended the series after the Frieza saga, hence the long battle on namek and the final death of goku, the Cell Saga (and as a sidenote, Garlic Jr. saga was BEFORE android saga) was the 1st saga that Toriyama created after they paid him a bunch of money to keep the series going, i'm pretty sure he stayed with it until the end of the Buu saga also
GT was when Toriyama was not involved (but everyone knew that)

freddy12354 · Post by **freddy12354** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:48 am

i like naruto, im not a big fan but i think that its better than dbz...
There are many much better series like Hellsing, Neon genesis, Chrono crusade and so no but that does not make naruto bad...

Lortenian · Post by **Lortenian** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:03 am

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actually, i'm [i]pretty[/i] sure that Toriyama originally ended the series after the Frieza saga, hence the long battle on namek and the final death of goku, the Cell Saga (and as a sidenote, Garlic Jr. saga was BEFORE android saga) was the 1st saga that Toriyama created after they paid him a bunch of money to keep the series going, i'm pretty sure he stayed with it until the end of the Buu saga also
GT was when Toriyama was not involved (but everyone knew that)[/quote]

No, Toryiama continued with the show through the Android and Cel Saga. Trust me, my cousin and I did some huge research on it a while back, and it was said Toryima handed the show to some others because they wanted to continue it; they made the Buu Saga. Toriyama gave them permission to take it up, yeah, but he wasn't actually [i]involved [/i]in making that saga. Same thing with GT (as you said), Toriyama was long gone by the time that was made.

[quote]By the time the garlic junior saga was being aired in america for the first time, the DBZ saga was already over and done with in japan. I think GT was too.[quote]

Well, duh. Once Japan was done with it, it was then aired in the U.S. I think the majority already know that.

[/quote]uh... what?!?! DBZ ended in Japan like 10 years ago... it wasn't even on cartoon network when all the stuff you claim American audiances wanted was actually made.[quote]

I was just commenting on how Toriyama didn't make the Buu Saga or GT. Some people (in America) made them, but permission given to them by the ACTUAL maker of the show; that's why the Buu Saga and GT stunk so bad. [/quote]

Lortenian · Post by **Lortenian** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:06 pm

I was able to talk to me cousin today and I asked her about the subject. She the brains of this since she did most of the research, but don't get upset at us for what we say, we haven't recalled any of this DBZ stuff in a while, so it's kinda hazy. She said Toriyama created the Buu Saga too. He created every saga in the show. After the Buu Saga he ended the show and another dude took it up and made GT.

We talked about it a little to try to refresh our thoughts. now that I actually talked it after who knows how long, we're not sure if Toriyama was helped in making the Buu Saga. In any case, :lol: sorry for the mess up guys. :wink: I just had to refresh my memory. ^_^'''

(please don't fry me, I wasn't trying to sound all high and mighty...I really did think that Americans took up the show...don't you hate it when you really think something wrong is true?) Ah, I may look it up again sometime.