Nominations for Worst Anime Fanbase

[The Wired Knight]

Don't they have to mention power levels every few seconds? like every five seconds.. I think maybe naruto repeats something over and over.. but the other characters.. not so much.. and it actually has story instead ten episodes of one guy powering up and then finally fighting for 10 minutes. BELIEVE IT!

Powerlevels were only used in the Saiyan-Freiza arc. That's it really. Wasn't used in Dragonball, nor after. Maybe about 20% of the entire story all together. That's not much.

This is a bad habbit of 99% of Shonen shows, there is always some arbitrary measure of power that impresses everyone in the show "oh it's so big" "look at the power behidn it" it's what turns the show into a comoplete dickwaving contest when they start to measure this stuff.

DBZ = Power Lvls
Naruto = Chakra
Bleach = Spritual Pressure
Yu Yu Hakusho = Reiki

Now to be fair I do like some of the shows listed above but you have to admit that this is a really irritating trend amongst most shonen shows.

[Cornwiggle]

Yu Yu Hakusho = Reiki

Now to be fair I do like some of the shows listed above but you have to admit that this is a really irritating trend amongst most shonen shows.

Reiki and Youki was just the energy used. It was only actually "measured" for a VERY short time in the very last saga, but it was never used in the battles or anything, more for story. They did however, classify the characters in groups of strength, but that was only mentioned in the 2nd half of the story.

YYH did a good job at not relying on "measurement"

[Radical_Yue]

YYH did a good job at not relying on "measurement"

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[Arigatomina]

Now to be fair I do like some of the shows listed above but you have to admit that this is a really irritating trend amongst most shonen shows.

I think a lot of it's asian culture more than just dick measuring. Ki/chi/life energy is present in a lot of anime that don't involve comparing one person's level to another's. Most shoujo anime use it when they give girls magical powers. Other anime just pop it out of nowhere for a weird moment of wtf like Fruits Basket's "electic/emo/scary/sees stuff" girl. CCS's Touya used his to see ghosts. Tsubasa does the same, it being clamp and all. Um...there's a few mentions of ki/fighting spirit/energy in Gundam Wing - which is a very weird anime for it to pop up since they fight with machines. In most anime I can think of, lifeforce is something taken for granted. Everyone has it according to most asian religions, so that's the natural place to go when you're giving anime characters super-human powers - tap the lifeforce and suddenly it's not 'inhuman' it's just...a little stronger than other humans.

Still agree with you completely. Even Prince of Tennis uses power levels - they're pretty colored auras that surround the especially strong tennis players. ;p

[Otohiko]

Well, the whole Chi/Ki/Qi/Aura thing has roots deep in Buddhist spirituality. I'm sure it's a lot more meaningful (and makes more sense) to the Japanese (and in Asia generally) than it is to us in the west here.

[The Wired Knight]

Still agree with you completely. Even Prince of Tennis uses power levels - they're pretty colored auras that surround the especially strong tennis players. ;p

Course taht's when the show lost track of itself and went well above and beyond the "DBZ Tennis" it was (though I really do like Tenipuri. . . well at least the part that was following the manga).

Anyway, I'm aware of the chi/ki as life force but admittedly its spiritual basis seems to only be rooted so far into many shounen manga. My bigger issue is with the fact that it becomes the sole means of determining the strenght of characters and it actually losses all relativity the longer a show goes on. Mostly because you rarely have a frame of reference for which to set it in and to teh viewer everything seems the same no matter how many times they say "I can see his ****" or "Feel how heavy his ****" is.

Shows aimed at older audiences almost always drop this element (can't think of one off hand that uses it that's not a younger audience title).

[Cornwiggle]

Anyway, I'm aware of the chi/ki as life force but admittedly its spiritual basis seems to only be rooted so far into many shounen manga. My bigger issue is with the fact that it becomes the sole means of determining the strenght of characters and it actually losses all relativity the longer a show goes on. Mostly because you rarely have a frame of reference for which to set it in and to teh viewer everything seems the same no matter how many times they say "I can see his ****" or "Feel how heavy his ****" is.

If they're going to make battles or fights that are different from real life, they have to bestoy them with some sort of ability, and whatever that ability is it requires some sort of force to generate.

Even with shows like Baki the Grappler, which they have no abilities, they just fight with their fists (albeit it they're very strong, more than realistic) but they still judge each other based on that. Not quite as what you're saying, but still. In action, you have judge each other by what you're using to battle. It's inevitable.

[Chrono63]

Well, even NGE has the AT Field, even though it is never measured.

[The Wired Knight]

There are means of comparative judging without creating an arbitrary source that seems to rely on how heavy or visible it is to determine strength. Destructive force is only a reliable measure (Throughout DBZ and DBGT characters are always suprised when someone survives an attack "taht should ahve destroyed a planet" but these attacks were used during the first arc so really this shouldn't suprirse anyone.).

Shows like Basilisk, Le Chevalier D'Eon, Giant Robo (my list could go on) rely on pure skill or otherwise don't bother to qualify the amount of strength of cahracter has. It should be clear enough by the fight that ensues or their display of such. to state a counterpoint in Shonen you have One Piece. One Piece characters get consistently more powerful but this is only clear from their ability to use their abilities and their fighting skill alone, there is nothing to qualify their power and they must measure each other from a fight, not some arbitrary erroneous energy that manages to manifest itself around their persona.

[CodeZTM]

This is only true for my school. The Fruits Basket fanbase.

I know, I know, you rarely hear of non-televised anime being obnoxious fanbase, especially here in Arkansas. Unfortutenetly, this is mostly my fault. I bought Fruits Basket, let a few friends watch it with me one weekend, and then the shit hit the fan. Many people began "buying" the series, and watching it. Even non-anime fans were watching it and having some sort of say in it. Of course, we had the Yuki fans, the Kyo fans, the shigure/ayame/hatori fans (the worst*), and a few touru fans. I really didn't notice it (since I don't eat lunch with the rest of the school, I stay in my computer lab and type away my life on the fourms), until one day when my lab was closed for the day, and kept hearing people argue back and forth about why it should be Kyo/Kagura, Kyo/Touru, Yuki/Kagura, Yuki/Touru, and the list was endless. No. 1, I was surprised mostly because I never thought such a stupid argument would be so important.

That was last year, and now it's mostly (*shudder) Bleach conversations.

But overall, I hate the DBZ fanbase with a great hatred and disrespect. I distaste them mostly due to the fact that it is all my friends used to talk about, and I never could get into that series. Plus, they are highly obnoxious in both their yaoi and straight fanfiction.

Actually, any fanbase at all really bugs me. I prefer anime that nobody has ever heard of, and enjoy it all to my selfish self.