Hellsing differently animated in 2 versions? ~.~?

Tsukin · Post by **Tsukin** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:50 am

OK, someone had to have noticed by now that there seem to be different versions of hellsing out there that for some reason have different animation, i have some pic examples to prove it, right here :

these 2 pics are from the same episode, same scene, etc...
what i wanna know is.....whats up with that?

FATTY_VM · Post by **FATTY_VM** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:55 am

one looks like it is of less quality then the origonal, which could mean a bootleg version, i believe some bootleg versions which compress episodes onto a dvd usually arent properly compressed with lossless codecs ... which would lead to a degrade in the picture quality, for specifics id wait for absolute destiny or meric or even tab to give you a full answer.

Nightowl · Post by **Nightowl** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:08 am

FATTY - a codec can't redraw a cel... those are two completely different cels. I mean, look at the detail in the teeth. I've never seen Hellsing, so I can't comment as to whether it's a re-release or not. Interesting, though.

-N

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:17 am

Or it could be attributed to Hellsing's admittedly horrible animation continuity. Several characters experience design flux over the 13 episodes, so it would not surprise me if the upper picture was a key cell and the lower was done by an inbetweener.

Just look at the nonexistent detail in the ear of the lower. That just screams 'underpaid Korean tweener', even more than the loss of definition on the teeth and glasses does.

The lower picture was probably also compressed less competently (there is some blocking in the background on the right between the hat and the tie), but as Nightowl noted, bad compression can't redraw a cel.

--K

FATTY_VM · Post by **FATTY_VM** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:34 am

Nightowl wrote:FATTY - a codec can't redraw a cel... those are two completely different cels. I mean, look at the detail in the teeth. I've never seen Hellsing, so I can't comment as to whether it's a re-release or not. Interesting, though.

-N

i was thinking maybe it was from the same series of pictures, just one was taken before the other one .. like a second or so difference could mean the world if an animator was using a effect like alucard being shot\stabbed\suprised here
not to mention, it could be a flashback (ceres has alot of those) and the pictures differ because of that, but from what i saw from saving the images and making them bigger, was one seemed to be a lower quality than the other

FATTY_VM · Post by **FATTY_VM** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 11:40 am

hrrm .. on a third thought .. didnt hellsing have a preview trailer which the animation was different from the show itself? i remember it being listed on kazaa as Hellsing 00 ... and a few sites mention it .... id look into .. but i dont really care either way, i liked it ... but not that much

Nightowl · Post by **Nightowl** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:17 pm

It's true, it would make sense if that were an inbetween frame after the pretty frame... I don't know much about the show, so anything I say would but pure speculation. Though it is true, that first one has much nicer compression. Tsukin - where did you get these two images?

-N

Shun · Post by **Shun** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 1:30 pm

The trailer that was said earlier is kind of interesting and so far the most logical conclusion to me.

#1.)The quality its self is different(the less detailed one seems to be more fuzzish)

#2)If u look closer at the face you can see that the nose is completely different and there is no deffine of the cheeckbone area in the lesser quality one making it look like a completely different person.

who knows :O

Arctyc · Post by **Arctyc** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 2:42 pm

hrrm .. on a third thought .. didnt hellsing have a preview trailer which the animation was different from the show itself? i remember it being listed on kazaa as Hellsing 00 ... and a few sites mention it .... id look into .. but i dont really care either way, i liked it ... but not that much

Yes.

The quality of animation found in the Psalm of Darkness trailer is topnotch, compared to that found in the series itself. Yet the other opinions are correct as well, even between episodes, there were drastic changes in animation style.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:16 pm

hate to disapoint you folks but no. That is not the trailer.

Tsukin

can we get an exact time/framenumber, ep number, and the names of the encodes?