Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal

jokestr2003 · Post by **jokestr2003** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:38 pm

The best animation film evah!
So emotional and cool and sad and yeah.
What do YoU tHinK

)v(ajin Koji · Post by **)v(ajin Koji** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 3:56 pm

jokestr2003 · Post by **jokestr2003** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:06 pm

ORO?!?!!? *gets hit in the face with a frying pan* ehhhhhhhh

xtc_kurama · Post by **xtc_kurama** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:07 pm

that was the movie right?
i thought i was pretty good, like a big long Kenshin episode

Jim Hawkings21122 · Post by **Jim Hawkings21122** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:18 pm

jokestr2003 wrote:The best animation film evah!
So emotional and cool and sad and yeah.
What do YoU tHinK

have you seen reflections yet?

just as good as the other two.

Shadow*Star · Post by **Shadow*Star** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 6:38 pm

I agree all of the Samurai X movies were great, very bloody and meaningful at the same time, just my kind of Anime

narcted · Post by **narcted** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:51 am

xtc_kurama wrote:that was the movie right?
i thought i was pretty good, like a big long Kenshin episode

No, the movie is set during the TV series at the end of first season, but before Kyoto Saga. It uses the cast from the Kamiya Dojo and does follow the basic plot and style of the TV series.

Trust and Betrayal is an OAV prequel to the Kenshin TV series. Takes place during the Bokumatsu (Mejii revolution) 10 years before the TV series. About a '90 degree' on what the TV series was. Kenshin kills a lot of people. The OAV does not have nearly the level of humor the TV series does.

Trust and Betrayal a definite must see for Kenshin fans. I'd actually like to experimanet with introducing a fan to Kenshin by first showing them Trust and Betrayal, then the TV series. Reflections was good and very sad. It kinda came short of my expectations, so I'd rate it the lesser of the OAVs.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:29 pm

narcted wrote:
xtc_kurama wrote:that was the movie right?
i thought i was pretty good, like a big long Kenshin episode
No, the movie is set during the TV series at the end of first season, but before Kyoto Saga. It uses the cast from the Kamiya Dojo and does follow the basic plot and style of the TV series.

Not exactly. The movie takes place after Kyoto. This is apparent at the end when Kenshin uses a variant of the Succession technique (in the air). You can even hear Sano say "ogi" which means succession technique. I'm not positive how ADV translated it.

xtc_kurama wrote:I'd actually like to experimanet with introducing a fan to Kenshin by first showing them Trust and Betrayal, then the TV series. Reflections was good and very sad. It kinda came short of my expectations, so I'd rate it the lesser of the OAVs.

I disagree. The OVA takes place immediately after Kyoto. Now of course in the "timeline" it occurs prior (10 years), HOWEVER, in the manga it is a flashback that occurs *after* Kyoto. It makes sense since the next saga in the manga was the "Revenge Arc" and deals with Enishi and the death of his sister.

It is imperative that viewers watch the OVA *after* kyoto. The entire TV series builds up this mystery around Kenshin and the OVA finally answers it.

You can't really argue with the manga and how it's presented since it's the original.

As for Reflections, I dislike it...A LOT. It goes in the opposite direction as the manga and the ending is attrocious. It has nothing to do with the central theme of the entire series and is the complete opposite of the optimistic ending of the manga...which again is the original.

The Hitokiri Battousai · Post by **The Hitokiri Battousai** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:32 pm

its my number 1 fav anime

Farlo · Post by **Farlo** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:04 pm

trust and betrayle....

i have the directors cut woo..

+1

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Very good movie