Cardcaptors/Cardcaptor Sakura

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:16 pm

I'm contemplating here...

Is the difference in Cardcaptors and Cardcaptor Sakura that big? Since Cardcaptors is the English DUB of Cardcaptor Sakura, I'm thinking about purchasing Cardcaptors (can't stand English subtitles, so I won't buy).

angelx03 · Post by **angelx03** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:25 pm

Cardcaptors is an edited dub version that's been butchered by Nelvana to unimaginable levels. The ONLY uncut dub version available is the Cardcaptor Sakura the Movie 2: the Sealed Card.

In short, if you want the complete and better story, get the subbed versions.

devilmaykickass · Post by **devilmaykickass** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:31 pm

Never seen more than a couple episodes of each, so I can't really say, but from what I saw it got the Sailor Moon treatment (they actually edited the scenes, added completely new cheaply done cg to replace other stuff, cut it to shreds, changed character names and personalities completely, along with completely altering the dialogue to where it had nothing to do with what was originally going on at points, and altered character relationships, mainly Sakura's and Tomoyo's, aka Madison's). Although I doubt it was half as bad, since from the episodes I saw they at least kept it consistent with what happened in the last episode.

Personally, if you're going to buy either, I'd buy the original uncut Cardcaptor Sakura. That way you actually have the whole thing.

Krisqo · Post by **Krisqo** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:24 pm

http://www.ccsvscc.com/

This should help.

aragami_frog · Post by **aragami_frog** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:21 am

Cardcaptors is HEAVYLY edited.

It consists of only 1/3 of the original episodes. The other 2/3'rds of the series ended on the cutting room floor cause Li wasn't in those episodes.

It removed all the sexual innuendo. Including all of the Yuri (lesbian) and Yuri (gay) innuendo between the kids.

It removed the one kids crush on her teacher, they changed it to where she was no afraid of him.

It reordered the episodes of the series. Episode 01 was episode 08 of the original and it didn't just go up showing each episode from Li from there. It'd go back and forth.

Episode 01 was originally episode 08
Episode 03 was originally episode 17!!!
Episode 04 was originally episode 13!!!
Episode 05 was orignally episode 09!!!
Episode 15 was orignally episode 36!!!
Episode 16 was orignally episode 03!!!

This made for several plot holes big enough to drive a semi through. Plus in one of the later episodes Sakura is "able to only use 4 of her cards" for some reason because of the power in the story but in actuality she only had THOSE 4 CARDS cause the episode they used was one of the first episodes where she only had 4 cards and they had already shown her capture alot more in the episodes before that.

Cardcaptors took place in Reading Pennsulvania and they called the famous Tokyo tower "That tower". While in the original version it took place in Tokyo and Tokyo Tower was refered to as Tokyo tower.

In Cardcaptors they said sakura's name wrong many of times

In Cardcaptors they changed almost everyones names to remove any Japanese feeling to the series.

In Cardcaptors... they removed Kero's corner from many episodes and instead inserted footage of various Clow cards Sakura already captured, have yet to capture or would never capture cause the episode didn't include Li.

In Cardcaptors they removed Sakura's crush on her brothers friend who was MUCH older than her and in college (I believe, or it could of been the laast years of highschool).

All references to Japan were removed, this made the food ackward because they had to rename the food they were eating. Rice balls became doughnuts and so on when refered to by the characters.

aragami_frog · Post by **aragami_frog** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:25 am

Oh yeah, If I remember correctly you won't be able to find the whole series of Cardcaptors released anyways.

All of Cardcaptor Sakura was released and Nelvana found that the original version of the series was outselling their edited version big time. I think it was around 2-1 or even 3-1 in the number of DVD's Cardcaptor Sakura was selling compared to Cardcaptors.

This led to them the last I knew discontinuing the DVD release of Cardcaptors because of lack of sales compared to it's unedited version.

As for why they only showed 1/3rd of the total episodes was cause they took this series and showed it to 10 year olds and they kids said they wanted to see more Li. So they did what their test audience said and re-edited the series down.

Cardcaptors is one of the most debated "animes" out there as many considered it toooooo butchered to still be called anime. In fact most stores don't put Cardcaptors with the anime section but with the kids section.

Jayn_Newell · Post by **Jayn_Newell** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:50 am

aragami_frog wrote:This made for several plot holes big enough to drive a semi through. Plus in one of the later episodes Sakura is "able to only use 4 of her cards" for some reason because of the power in the story but in actuality she only had THOSE 4 CARDS cause the episode they used was one of the first episodes where she only had 4 cards and they had already shown her capture alot more in the episodes before that.

Nice to know why that was, because that episode didn't make any sense to me either. It was really frustrating how when it first started airing (on Fox was it? Can't remember which station) it started with Li's first appearance. Sakura is so obviously the main character I can't imagine why they'd try to make him seem like it. And stuff like pretending he doesn't have a crush on Julian, or that he and Sakura don't like each other--I've only seen the dub, but again, these were blindingly obvious to me.

At least Teletoon started airing the show in something resembling an actual order, if not the original order, so I've seen most of the dub episodes in an order that (almost) makes sense.

CodeZTM · Post by **CodeZTM** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:51 am

That's what I thought it would be. I may get subbed then.... I knew Cardcaptors had been heavily edited from its original version, but I didn't know it was that bad....

aragami_frog · Post by **aragami_frog** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:59 pm

It was fun when it was still popular and on TV cause there were a ton of newbies who'd get defensive and say that all the lesbian/gay innuendo didn't exist and that we were sick for suggesting it. That and I also had someone cuss me out saying that Sakura wasn't in the name and I should shut up cause I don't know what I'm talking about cause I stated things that didn't appear in the series. I didn't say anything in response cause pretty much everyone else rung him through the cleaners over his misinformed statement.

I wish I had a quarter for everytime I heard:

"sexual innuendo between kids, and homosexualy, that's sick and the Japanse are sick for putting that stuff in a kids show"

I've seen quite a few swear off this series when they found out the contents of the original and thought it to be too perverse. Obviously they were the non anime fans who thought this cartoon on TV was pretty cool.

aragami_frog · Post by **aragami_frog** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:01 pm

Sorry for the double post but in one episode they ate hamburgers out of bowls.

Nelvana, in their quest to remove everything Japanese made them to be eating hamburgers in one episode except for the glarring fact that they were eating out of bowls LOL