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Post by jbone » Sun Aug 03, 2003 6:25 pm

AsukaFanGirl wrote:Look, I'm sorry...do not harrass me. I'm merely his girlfriend helping him out with a school project. If you have ISSUES take them up with him. He can explain to you what sort of pre-cautions to take if you wish to avoid being filmed and he can also explain what liberties he has in this situation...since it is a PUBLIC place and everybody has agreed to be there he has more leway then, say, filming somebody's house.

Might I suggest that you keep this civil should you wish to avoid any confrontations with him.
Me, keep it civil? You're the one who appears to have flipped out. ^_^

Happening to be standing in a crowd as the camera passes me is one thing, but I absolutely do not want to ever be the focus of the camera.
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Post by AsukaFanGirl » Sun Aug 03, 2003 6:48 pm

For the final time...please contact the director.
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Post by Freako » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:07 pm

WOuld anyone have a problem with this if they were NOT selling it ?


thats my real beef. after the ushicon and akon vids by random/variable, why would you want to pay for a documentary.


also ... animeboston was overcrowded, the amv contest sucked, and HOT AS FREAKEN HELL. I cant see how they could make a documentary out of it.

If I am on any of that tape , then I do plan to sue. take that to your DIRECTOR.

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Post by neilpeartnoy » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:34 pm

Where cowards make idle threats.
1. If you were going to sue the director on what ground would you do so? If you were interviewed you signed a release. If you weren’t interviewed its public domain. The Park Plaza hotel being a public place open to the public give anyone the right to film you. Also you are going to spend how much on court costs, a lawyer (or maybe you will represent yourself, that would be a hoot from your excellent command of privacy law thus far) to get what? See that's just it, you don't know what the going rate for breach of privacy law is, which this isn't. Say it was and you won, could I appeal? You don't know. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
2. How would you know if you were in such documentary when you yourself asked why anyone wold purchase such a thing? Surely you would not purchase it or even watch it since it is such a waste of time.

on to Jbone

If you don't want to be interviewed when we ask you if you want to filmed, say no! Is that so hard? Do you have to make spectacle on the ever so popular board yelling at someone who told you not once, but 5 times to contact the director. Why didn't you contact the director like anyone who has enough intelligence to wipe their own ass.

If you don't want the documentary, don't buy it. If you don't want to be interviewed, say no when asked. It's not rocket science, it’s not even basic English and grammar comprehension, but we see where we are with that now don’t we?

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Post by EarthCurrent » Mon Aug 04, 2003 4:47 pm

This is a matter of common curtousy. It is always better to ask people if they want to be included in a film and to take measures to either exclude footage of people who don't want to take part, or at the very least mosaic over faces.

This goes for crowds as well. Crowds should always be informed if cameras will be filming them and for what purpose if not for private use.

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Post by neilpeartnoy » Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:10 pm

I think this is more of a matter of common sense and common law. Common sense says anywhere there is crowd there will be cameras, digital, video and film. If you don't want to be filmed, stay at home where no one will ever bother you or film you. The law says once you leave a private dwelling you you enter the public. Whatever happens in public is open to public scrutiny. If I were running ASA tests in the park and happen to catch something funny happen to someone, like they slip and fall or are trying to eat some food and are rather messy about it, I could do whatever I wanted with that footage. Sell it to anyone, put it on the web, or not show it to anyone.
I would personally like to know why this guy has such a fear of being on camera. What does he think is going to happen if he doesn't agree to be in the documentary? We run up and start asking questions without permission then include that in the DVD? What?

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Post by EarthCurrent » Mon Aug 04, 2003 6:10 pm

Personally, I want to know why you have such a hard time grasping that not everyone wants to merrily smile for the camera and that the documentary makers should be the ones who go out of their way to ask permission to film people. Simply because the "law" is on your side, does not mean that you can flippantly ignore courtesy. Is it such a hard concept for you to grasp? Is it so hard to come out from behind the camera and ask, "Hey, does anyone here mind if we film this group for our documentary?"

With the exception of cosplayers, people do not typically go to conventions with the intention of being filmed by strangers. And even with cosplayers, you still ask if you can take their photo in most cases if they aren't posing for pictures already.

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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:42 pm

Well... From the comments and past experiences, fan done documentaries of Conventions are more trouble then they seem to be worth.. Me personally don't have a problem with them, but in the past a few incidents have been done that are quite tasteless...

What's important in a Documentary is to stay neutral and present things as they appear (kind of like the news). When ones opinion or the editing makes a person do or be what he is not, then all the trouble starts!

I use to do Convention documentaries about 7 years ago and everyone was cool with it, but since then I just don't bother unless I tape for my personal use or with a specific concept like the Dance Dance Revolution Documentaries in which case I am sure to only tape people and activities that those in it are Ok with... BUT generally, it's quite true that is you tape the public is a courtesy to inform them even though it may not require any legal consent...

Personally I would like to be atlest informed if I'll be in a documentary at Otakon before the camera rolls... Not becasue I don't want to be in it, but because I would like to atleast talk with said individuals as to find out what goal they have in mind when presenting it to the public...

Vlad

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Post by neilpeartnoy » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:21 pm

When did anyone say they were running around video taping people without their permission? Show me. Show me the incident where anyone said they were going to run around and film everyone if they like it or not. You seem to have this warped view, where you got it from is anyone's guess, that it was someone's intention to sit around with a camera and videotape everyone because they think that every wants to be video taped. Obviously you have hard time comprehending things. Where was it stated that anyone would not ask permission? When was it sated that everyone wants to be on camera? Show me any of the main points you had in a post made anyone. I’m assuming you won’t be able to because you had to be told 5 times to talk to someone else, so I can tell you’re not to quick on the draw.

By the way, because the law is one everyone's side, they can flippantly ignore courtesy, because if you look that word up its definition is 1 polite behavior 2. A polite gesture or remark. Meaning it's the nice thing to do not the obligated, customary or legal thing to do. Being a creature of freewill yourself you could do the same, if you would or not is your problem.

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Post by Freako » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:23 pm

neilpeartnoy

Im gonna take a wild guess here ........ Are you the "director" ?

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