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Re: Ballots

Post by XStylus » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:17 pm

anneke wrote:They are really going to attempt Ballots.... That should be interesting. With no specific AMV contest staff, who are they going to get to count all the ballots. Oh well.

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A separate AMV staff simply isn't necessary. I agreed with you earlier that perhaps a separate staff would have been a good idea, but think about it.

Most of the situation regarding the AMV competition last year was a total lack of preparation. I think we can all agree that's been addressed, seeing as we've got rules in early February as opposed to late May.

If there were a separate AMV staff, they'd only have one day of actual at-con work at AX. Staff members are expected to earn their keep by working 40 hours at the convention in exchange for admission and a room. There isn't 40 hours of at-con work for an AMV staffer to do. That's why they'll always remain under the Tech staff banner.

As long as preparations are taken care of well in advance, there shouldn't ever be a major need for a separate AMV staff. There might be a sub-department within the Tech staff for AMV related functions who double as Tech staffers at con when not doing AMV related things, but that's as far as it'll likely go.

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Post by XStylus » Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:26 pm

Castor Troy wrote:Forgot to add: The christmas gift was a copy of AX2001's contest I think.
I doubt that "Christmas Gift" will ever see fruition. As you might've guessed, AX has a slight paranoia complex when it comes to AMVs, and the day AX gives out an archive of AMVs is the day AX lists the contest in the program guide.

Shawn, the former head Tech staffer, would've had no compunctions over doing it because he simply didn't care what could happen to AX after he left.

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Post by Fluxmeister » Tue Feb 04, 2003 10:28 pm

SpPanda,

I received the same email! I almost feel bad about all the emails I sent
out. :shock:

Nice to know that he pulled through, this could be a much more sad
situation. :cry:
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Re: Ballots

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:24 am

anneke wrote:They are really going to attempt Ballots.... That should be interesting. With no specific AMV contest staff, who are they going to get to count all the ballots. Oh well.

Anneke
It will be interesting to see how ballots work. Otakon does it that way and it's quite a task to collect and count them! With a bigger audiance and only having one showing, there will be LOTS of ballots and they will have to somehow be handed out.. Quite a bit of logistics to work out, but then again I always did try to suggest to AX to use Ballots so it may be worth all the effort after all....

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Post by Castor Troy » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:42 am

I think they should do the ballots in a scantron type fashion. Or they can play some exhibition videos and use that time to rally up the votes.
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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 05, 2003 12:57 am

Castor Troy wrote:I think they should do the ballots in a scantron type fashion. Or they can play some exhibition videos and use that time to rally up the votes.
I don't see it, It takes Otakon a couple of hours to count the ballots.. Now thing about counting up and verifying over 1000 ballots.. No hope in hell of waiting that long! The only down side to ballots is you can't announce things the same night wiht large crowds...

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Post by XStylus » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:28 am

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:I think they should do the ballots in a scantron type fashion. Or they can play some exhibition videos and use that time to rally up the votes.
I don't see it, It takes Otakon a couple of hours to count the ballots.. Now thing about counting up and verifying over 1000 ballots.. No hope in hell of waiting that long! The only down side to ballots is you can't announce things the same night wiht large crowds...

Vlad
How many people usually attend Otakon's convention, and how long does it take for them to count all the ballots?

For AX, I'm estimating that there'd be at least 5000 ballots to be counted. I think it'd be wise if the Tech staff investigated tallying software of some kind (or wrote it from scratch) to help streamline the counting a bit, but we'll see how it goes.

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Post by dokidoki » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:45 am

xstylus wrote:How many people usually attend Otakon's convention, and how long does it take for them to count all the ballots?
I think last year it was around 12,000. They have multiple contest showings, so ballot counting is distributed between them. (ie: they don't wait until the last minute to count the votes from the first showing)
For AX, I'm estimating that there'd be at least 5000 ballots to be counted.
If that. Last year at Otakon only about 700 people voted.
http://www.otakon.com/history/past_awar ... nners.html
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Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:47 am

xstylus wrote: How many people usually attend Otakon's convention, and how long does it take for them to count all the ballots?

For AX, I'm estimating that there'd be at least 5000 ballots to be counted. I think it'd be wise if the Tech staff investigated tallying software of some kind (or wrote it from scratch) to help streamline the counting a bit, but we'll see how it goes.
Well, there are three showing for Otakon with about 2500 each time... the ballot turn out though ends up being lower since a lot of people don't want to bother voting..

I estimate the number at AX to be LOWER then 5000! I estimate if the crowed is say 5000, the there will probably be something like 30% who will vote. Maybe more, but for sure I can't see over half since a lot of people just want to watch and not bother to fill out s sheet of paper...

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Re: Ballots

Post by hackerzc » Wed Feb 05, 2003 2:17 am


It will be interesting to see how ballots work. Otakon does it that way and it's quite a task to collect and count them! With a bigger audiance and only having one showing, there will be LOTS of ballots and they will have to somehow be handed out.. Quite a bit of logistics to work out, but then again I always did try to suggest to AX to use Ballots so it may be worth all the effort after all....

Vlad
Well with Otakon, they include the ballot in the whole member pack they give you at registration. It would actually be eazier having one BIG screening then several smaler ones like Otakon did last year because once the get the ballots, you have them, period. All you have to do is count. And that should not be a problem unless some one from Florida is doing the counting. =^)
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