HDTV editing for AMV's ... Whaaaaaah! ...

[post-it]

This is a subject I've dreaded ever sence Xvid Codec's were first introduced!

Howdy

I finally bought me a Computer that can capture HD 1366 -- and THAT's where this problem really begins

a) I'm not new to editing ...

b) I'm not up to date on the newest Codec's either ...

after purchasing Primere Pro 3, Magix Pro 11 & Pro 12 Video Editors, I find myself lost ... lost because the Detail and Sharp Clean Captures are washed-way in the Codec's I've tryed. ( and, yes, I've even tryed converting everything Directly to .VOB Files. )

Sooo -- my questions are:

1) is there, or have they made an HD Editor that is simple to use?

2) are there any Codec's which will Shrink the size of the File while Retaining its clearity ( I'm not sure that "clearity" is even a relivent point with lossy encodes. )

... if anyone has any idea's on this problem, I think NOW would be a good time to grasp the Concept that I am currently fighting for I'm becoming confused as to How Many Products claim they can work with HD ( 2480 X 1366 ) Captures yet fail completely once purchased X_X

Normally this question would be asked by the Fan Subbers to other Fan Subbers; however, I'm hoping that ( maybe ) someone knows of a solution that even Fan Subbers might not have tested

Can You Help ??
( all facts only become real when the question is fully realized. - traxx )

THx

[Orwell]

What is it your capturing? Just plain video off a camera, or anime off dvds? If the latter, why are you capturing it?

[Scintilla]

Where the hell are you getting source footage that's at 2480x1366?

[post-it]

-Orwell-

A few of the LIVE ATSC feeds are starting to carry RAW Anime releases and I'd like to capture and Sub-Title them.

TV-Tokyo, WTBS, NAS series ... blah-blah blah-blah ... their HD is 1366 while we, in the US, are still fighting over 720i and 1080i standards.

it would be nice IF they released a New Series, like they do every year ( in the fall and after xmas ) to be able to bring these series into the Anime Lovers area as clean and sharp as they were when we ( those who like anime ) see them.

To date, only one series is being sent ASTC and NTSC; but I'm quite sure that THAT will change!

[Phantasmagoriat]

woooohhh-- exciting stuff

I thought most HD stuff [we see here anyways] comes as a result of resizing and enhancements [what I did for my last vid], but maybe we'll start seeing more stuff coming from better sources. *crosses fingers*

As for your questions... the largest res I've worked with is 1280x960. But It never occurred to me that one might need a special HD Editor for higher res sources-- so what exactly was the reason the above editors didn't work... I may have to test this in Magix...

As far as codecs go, afaik it's an ongoing struggle with filesize [I use Lagarith, but lately PICVideo's MJPEG trail].

[Keeper of Hellfire]

after purchasing Primere Pro 3, Magix Pro 11 & Pro 12 Video Editors,

Premiere Pro 3? The most recent version is Pro 2, Premiere Elements exist in version 3.

I'm becoming confused as to How Many Products claim they can work with HD ( 2480 X 1366 ) Captures yet fail completely once purchased X_X

Sounds ridiculous to me. I'd download the trial and test if it works before I'd purchase a program, especially if it's so expensive like Premiere Pro.

Did you ever think about the sense of 2480 X 1366 footage? Nearly no actual display can show this without downscaling, especially no TV-set. Therefore that claim:

TV-Tokyo, WTBS, NAS series ... blah-blah blah-blah ... their HD is 1366

sounds incredible to me. It's more likely that some stupid fansubbers (or in case of raws: fans) have blown normal SD or HD footage to that size.

The best codec for distribution of such footage is a h.264 codec. But be aware that the filesize still will be huge - 2480 x 1366 has as nearly 10 times as much pixels than 720 x 480.

If you still want to edit with this - look for a program that can work with intermediates, otherwise even a highspeed PC will have problems to handle that stuff.

[post-it]

if I had a place to upload a 400 meg 5 minute capture for you to look at, I would!
( streamload seems to have some objection to THIS mpeg format ~_~ )

What I do have are some clips I captured durring NBCs Horse Durby a few weeks ago:
... I was just clowning around with the Capture features of my laptop's USB "WinTV-HVR950 NTSC/ATSC HD TV receiver" when -POOOOOF- my home computer actually started to screw-up and threw-itself into Pause-Store MODE.
( actually, I didn't even know the USB Adapter could even do that! it never did it on my laptop so I was not expecting it to do it on my PC either -- if you know what I mean. )
[ Best Buy -- about $59.95 if you would like to try it out yourselves .. hint hint ]

I bring this to your attention, not to be mean, but to let you know that ATSC HD is possibly being tested in your town too ^___^
NBC is jumping all-over this 1080i HD transmittion stuff and if your computer has a 4.6 gig processer ( 3.3gig minimum - trust me on the speeds x_x ) then you can see what I've been seeing and pulling my hair-out with!
(( Virtual Dub MOD hates this MPEG, nothing locks-in .. audio, video size nor timings ~_~ ))
Magix Pro 12 & ( yes, I stand corrected ) Primere 2 Pro (sorry about that ) do not like this MPEG format either!

I was stumbling around with my Extended Dish Networks Package when the HVR950 locked-in on some non-standard ATSC channels being tested on WTBS-Tokyo ... and others -hehe- ... sooo, yes, I am being on the level here.
My current monitor only allows 1440 X 900 and Windows XP does recognize the 16 by 10 size and has corrected everything I work on to THAT aspect ratio. As you can guess, by now, I'm not seeing everything the HD signal has to offer either -- yet it looks a lot better than ANY DVD I've ever seen including Blue-Ray DVD's which fail miserably to the signals I've seen them sending over there!
The video, when captured, plays in the RECORD MODE section of the softwares panel ... you have GOT to see what it looked-like when they replayed the last two episodes of the Anime I saw in ATSC Mode ^_____^ -- I'm Hooked ^_____^

[Scintilla]

after purchasing Primere Pro 3, Magix Pro 11 & Pro 12 Video Editors,

Premiere Pro 3? The most recent version is Pro 2, Premiere Elements exist in version 3.

Actually, it appears the most recent version is <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/">Adobe Premiere Pro CS3</a>.

NBC is jumping all-over this 1080i HD transmittion stuff and if your computer has a <b>4.6 gig processer ( 3.3gig minimum</b> - trust me on the speeds x_x ) then you can see what I've been seeing and pulling my hair-out with!

They're called "every major desktop CPU architecture since the miserable failure of Intel's Netburst, and that includes AMD Athlon 64 (/X2), Intel Core, and Intel Core 2". Ever heard of them?

In fact, if you look at Intel's and AMD's websites, you will not find a single processor from any of the lines I mentioned above that runs at 3.3 GHz or faster.

[Phantasmagoriat]

wait.... so if I got ahold of this stuff... I wouldn't even be able to play it...

[Zarxrax]

For editing HD, its probably a good idea to use the bait-and-switch method. Edit with low-res proxy footage, then replace it with the HD when you export.