AVIsynth for MAC users

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AVIsynth for MAC users

Post by -Reda- » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:05 pm

I recently got a MAC because they're required for the college I'm about to enter. To my dismay I've been unable to find AVIsynth for it! As of now I'm pretty sure theres no such thing as a Mac compatible version of AVIsynth, but if anyone knows of any software SIMILAR to Avisynth or something like that, it would be most helpful if you'd point me in its direction.

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Post by Scintilla » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:16 pm

When it comes out, AVISynth 3.0 is supposed to be cross-platform, so you may want to pay attention to how the development on that is progressing.
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Post by Zarxrax » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:07 pm

Scintilla wrote:When it comes out, AVISynth 3.0 is supposed to be cross-platform, so you may want to pay attention to how the development on that is progressing.
That things been in development forever, and it's still a LONG way from completion, so don't hold your breath ^_^

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Re: AVIsynth for MAC users

Post by Kionon » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:18 pm

N0OB wrote:I recently got a MAC because they're required for the college I'm about to enter. To my dismay I've been unable to find AVIsynth for it! As of now I'm pretty sure theres no such thing as a Mac compatible version of AVIsynth, but if anyone knows of any software SIMILAR to Avisynth or something like that, it would be most helpful if you'd point me in its direction.
Unfortunately, no. You can often accomplish a lot of the same effects with Cleaner XL, but it is very expensive and from what I have heard not easy to get anywhere else.
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Post by Kariudo » Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:07 pm

IIRC the mac equivalent of avisynth (for the time being) is avidemux
I'm not a mac user, nor have I used this program...but this is the best thing I could find for an avisynth substitute
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Post by Zarxrax » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:24 am

Kariudo wrote:IIRC the mac equivalent of avisynth (for the time being) is avidemux
I'm not a mac user, nor have I used this program...but this is the best thing I could find for an avisynth substitute
That's more of a virtualdub substitute than an avisynth substitute.

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Post by Greggus1 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:35 am

Let me save you the pain of research with a simple list of your options, if you want decent footage :

1) The best solution right now would be to get Boot Camp and a version of Windows for it. This will run Windows on your Mac, and allow you to use Avisynth, eventually even allowing you to export your files to a Mac friendly format and edit on there.

2) Use Avidemux. I RECOMMEND THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE EDITING ON A PC, OR WINDOWS FOR MAC. You will not be able to export lossless to a Mac editing friendly format.

3) Acquire Cleaner. The program is very expensive, and only the XL version truly reaches Avisynth levels of customization. But it will export to Mac editing friendly lossless formats.

Those are the options I'm aware of. Avisynth 3 would be nice, though.

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Post by Qyot27 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:06 pm

Greggus1 wrote:2) Use Avidemux. I RECOMMEND THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE EDITING ON A PC, OR WINDOWS FOR MAC. You will not be able to export lossless to a Mac editing friendly format.
Just a shot in the dark, here, but something that I noticed was that Avidemux can do H.264 (and if my assumption is correct that Quant 0 = Lossless mode; it's been a long time since I read about that) then it might theoretically be possible to encode H.264 Lossless within AVI - but only after disabling the features which cause problems in putting it in AVI, mainly anything to do with B-frames and Reference frames - and then use the Perian Quicktime components to open it via an editing program on a Mac. Someone with a Mac would have to test it, though.

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Post by Greggus1 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:11 pm

Qyot27 wrote:
Greggus1 wrote:2) Use Avidemux. I RECOMMEND THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE EDITING ON A PC, OR WINDOWS FOR MAC. You will not be able to export lossless to a Mac editing friendly format.
Just a shot in the dark, here, but something that I noticed was that Avidemux can do H.264 (and if my assumption is correct that Quant 0 = Lossless mode; it's been a long time since I read about that) then it might theoretically be possible to encode H.264 Lossless within AVI - but only after disabling the features which cause problems in putting it in AVI, mainly anything to do with B-frames and Reference frames - and then use the Perian Quicktime components to open it via an editing program on a Mac. Someone with a Mac would have to test it, though.
I'm definitely going to try that. I'll get back to you within the week. Isn't H.264 lossy by definition though?

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Post by Qyot27 » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:55 pm

Greggus1 wrote:
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Greggus1 wrote:2) Use Avidemux. I RECOMMEND THIS ONLY IF YOU'RE EDITING ON A PC, OR WINDOWS FOR MAC. You will not be able to export lossless to a Mac editing friendly format.
Just a shot in the dark, here, but something that I noticed was that Avidemux can do H.264 (and if my assumption is correct that Quant 0 = Lossless mode; it's been a long time since I read about that) then it might theoretically be possible to encode H.264 Lossless within AVI - but only after disabling the features which cause problems in putting it in AVI, mainly anything to do with B-frames and Reference frames - and then use the Perian Quicktime components to open it via an editing program on a Mac. Someone with a Mac would have to test it, though.
I'm definitely going to try that. I'll get back to you within the week. Isn't H.264 lossy by definition though?
It does have a Lossless mode, though - it's present in ffdshow's VFW interface and x264 itself can also do it. The only problem would be that it takes a long time to encode. Not sure if it's less time than it would take to render out Uncompressed, though.

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