AMV Review #13: Tero Nybacka's Moments

[quadir]

The concept: free op the chosen amv, then video discussion in irc
Where: #amv-review irc.zirc.org (web client)
When: Every Monday, 20:30 EDT (8:30pm)
After: free-for-all video-related chat the rest of the week

This week's video:
Tero Nybacka (Sivis) - 2007 - Moments of Love and Silence
Category: Sentimental
Anime: Kannazuki No Miko [Spoilers]
Song: Panu Aaltio - When Time Slips Away
IRC Participants: godix, inthesto, jonnkakarotto (Jim Morrison), minion, Kionon, kitsuner (Jonathan Nelson), NikkiWhitecraft, Pankyy, quadir (Olivier Beaton), teya, Topstar_Productions (Rei Shaw)

Bonus Video:
Justin Emerson (ErMaC) - 2001 - I Can't Move On (<a href="ttp://www.umbrellavideo.com/vault/ermac/Marma ... zip">right click, save as</a>)
Category: Romance
Anime: Marmalade Boy
Song: Everything But The Girl - Missing

We want video suggestions, pm me or email quadir@animemusicvideos.org don't post em in the thread.

Feel free to use the channel to run betas by users or discuss videos.

Archive:
2007 June 012-04, May 011-28, 010-21, 009-14, 008-07
April 007-30, 006-23, 005-16, 004-09, 003-02, March 002-26, 001-19

[quadir]

20:30 <quadir> Thanks to every who submitted videos, this week our three judges chose Tero Nybacka's Moment sof Love and Silence.
20:30 <quadir> Video: Tero Nybacka - 2007 - Moments of Love and Silence
20:30 <quadir> Category: Romance
20:30 <quadir> Anime: Kannazuki No Miko [Spoilers]
20:30 <quadir> Song: Panu Aaltio - When Time Slips Away
20:30 <Kit> moment sof?
20:31 <Minion> here we go
20:31 <Kit> oh
20:31 <Kit> sivis
20:31 <Kit> yay
20:31 <Kit> I don't have to download this
20:31 <Kit> \o/
20:31 <Minion> hmm theres an mp4
20:31 <jonnkakarotto> AAAAAAAAAAAH
20:31 <jonnkakarotto> I've been rickrolled
20:31 <Kit> oh right, but I do have to op it, don't I?
20:31 <quadir> Kit: yes plz
20:31 <Kit> fine
20:31 <quadir> discussion starts @ 9
20:32 <Minion> quadir: if you keep jonn's quote in here, leave in my rickroll link
20:32 <godix> Romance. Whee.
20:32 * jonnkakarotto agrees
20:32 <quadir> godix: instrumental!
20:33 <godix> Screw romance. I'm staging a coup. Everyone, op and discuss this video: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... p?v=128335
20:33 <jonnkakarotto> lolgodix
20:33 <quadir> we haven't done romance in awhile :(
20:33 <Minion> godix: ok, done.
20:33 <Minion> op is up
20:33 <Kit> I wants a fanny pack
20:33 <jonnkakarotto> also, cocks
20:33 <Topstar> hmm normally I don't have problems with mp4s that one dosn't want to work
20:33 <quadir> and you got 93 ops on that piece of trash already
20:34 <quadir> Topstar: vlc is AOK for me
20:34 <Topstar> grabbing the AVI
20:34 <godix> quadir: I know. Getting it to #1 on the all time top 10 list was the best part of the video actually.
20:36 <godix> Hey, wait, someone changed the categories on DTSEM. I coulda swore I entered it in under the serious category.
20:36 <jonnkakarotto> rawr. my internets are lacking
20:36 * jonnkakarotto grabs the whip
20:37 * Kit blames doki
20:37 <godix> Oh, this series. Foxjones did a video to it once.
20:38 <godix> I remember being disappointed there was no lesbian sex orgy.
20:38 <Minion> god. hope it was better than this shit.
20:38 <NikkiWhitecraft> gah I still have 5 mins before it's done downloading
20:38 <Kit> oh yeah, maybe I should watch it before I leave my op
20:38 <Kit> naaah
20:38 <jonnkakarotto> 8 mins and counting
20:38 <godix> minion: It was ummm different. Foxjones has a style that I can't honestly say is bad but at the same time doesn't appeal to me at all.
20:39 <Kit> disregard that, cocks, etc
20:39 <jonnkakarotto> in before pooper
20:39 <Topstar> oping now... and I've got to see this show
20:40 <Kit> spoiler: they don't actually have sex
20:41 <godix> kit: Does the video actually follow the show fairly closely?
20:41 <quadir> Topstar: look up the vid kastles in the sand too
20:41 <quadir> Topstar: another good amv to this anime
20:42 <Kit> it's exactly like the show
20:42 <quadir> sumary vid
20:42 <quadir> or recap
20:42 <Kit> completely
20:42 <Kionon> I like it. A lot.
20:42 <Kit> (ps - I've never seen the show)
20:42 <Kit> (lol)
20:42 <Kionon> Because it is a summary vid.
20:42 <quadir> kionon I think has seen the series right?
20:43 <Kionon> I have it all, yeah.
20:43 <Kit> Kionon doesn't worry about the laundry, and he's forgotten about his job
20:43 <godix> I'm just curious if the show really does pull the 'NOOOO! HOW DARE YOU TURN MY LESBO INTO A STRAIGHT CHICK! I MUST KILL HER NOW!'
20:43 <Topstar> So it's a story of shoujo-ai and betrayal and sword fights?
20:44 <Kionon> Godix: It does... Kinda.
20:44 <NikkiWhitecraft> ohhh I've seen that anime, god last year sometime
20:44 <godix> That's like the coolest chick flick romanace thing ever. Getting pissed and homicidal because your dyke went straight. You just don't get quality storylines like that in America.
20:45 <Minion> my op is up
20:45 <Topstar> I dunno... I think I've seen the story on Showcase
20:45 <Topstar> which is a Canadian TV station that's kind of like your HBO
20:45 <Minion> how long do we wait now?
20:45 <godix> An episode of Ellen maybe.
20:45 <godix> minion: Top of the hour. Gives you plenty of time to look up insults for the video on the web.
20:46 <Minion> nah, i'll just pour myself some cran+vodka. the rest will flow naturally
20:46 <Minion> brb
20:46 <Kit> don't pee in here
20:46 <Kit> |:
20:47 <Kionon> I note, I am already seeing wildly fluctuating opinions.
20:50 <Topstar> yeah
20:50 <NikkiWhitecraft> hmm
21:00 <Kionon> iz dat sum lensflare, Kit?
21:00 <quadir> there we go, posted log from last week
21:00 <quadir> let's get this started
21:01 <godix> Effort should have a NA option like effects and lipsync do. Cause you know there are plenty of videos that make you go 'I didn't see any effort at all here....'
21:01 <Arkada> finally
21:01 <godix> Not that I'm saying that about this video, it's just a random thought that occured to me.
21:01 <Topstar> godix kickass videos, especially the ones where he said he put effort into them
21:01 <Minion> a fastering lump of kak.
21:01 <Minion> i'd sooner watch one of dj izumi's videos that loop this even once.
21:01 <Minion> even managed to screw up the lesbian themes.
21:01 <Kit> 2:16 = BOOM HEADSHOT
21:02 <Kionon> I loved it, personally.
21:02 <Topstar> I liked it, don't know the anime. But it convinced me to check it out.
21:02 <Kionon> I love amvs that make you feel the same way as the series made you feel, and this video did that for me.
21:02 <godix> Ok, if we're starting, I just gotta say that lebsian getting pissed her personal muff diver turned straight so she sets out to kill the former dyke is the greatest romance story ever. Fuck romeo and juliet, THIS is the true meaning of the word romance.
21:02 <Topstar> I've deffenitly heard it mentioned
21:02 -!- Minion has joined #amv-review
21:02 <Minion> goddamn wifi
21:03 <Minion> did my review come through?
21:03 <Topstar> yes Minion it's there
21:03 <Minion> alright, good.
21:03 <Kit> do these discussions always start out this slowly?
21:03 <Topstar> Not usually
21:03 <Minion> just when your around
21:03 <quadir> so it's been awhile since I've seen a recap amv that had a coherant story
21:03 <Topstar> often there's less people and more going on
21:04 <godix> I'm willing to overlook a lot of problems just for the 'I must kill that god damned lebso bitch who turned straight' story.
21:04 <quadir> usually recap amvs just jump all over the place, they try to incorporate too many of the subplots and arcs
21:04 <Kit> it's certainly a good selling point for the anime
21:04 <quadir> or even just random 'funny' scenes
21:04 -!- Minion [~chatzilla@ZiRC-91F0FBE8.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout]
21:04 -!- Minion is now known as Minion
21:05 <godix> Is it just me or did anyone else see this and go 'Hmm, she needs to find better copies of fansubs if she's gonna use downloaded footage'.
21:05 <Minion> is anyone else reminded of shinji when they see that part near the beginning with the blood all over her hand? if shinji had a pussy thoguh, thats exactly what it would look like. on his period.
21:05 <quadir> yeah I marked it down on video quality
21:05 <Topstar> Kinda like how Macross Do You Remember Love included the Ryber subplot as three seconds of Misa daydreaming
21:05 <Kit> isn't Sivis a guy?
21:05 <Topstar> no one would have a clue what that was about if they hadn't seen the sereis
21:05 <quadir> Minion: wow, you just ruined that scene, thanks
21:05 <quadir> Minion: becuase you're right
21:05 <Minion> any time :up:
21:05 <Kionon> I have to agree with Topstar, although I did not take that into account.
21:06 <jonnkakarotto> OP'd
21:06 <godix> kit: Even if sivis has a penis, he made a romance video. He is not a guy.
21:06 <Kionon> I loved the video because I have seen the series.
21:06 <Topstar> Agree with what?
21:06 <Kionon> If I hadn't seen the series, I might not have cared. Then again, I might have.
21:06 <Kit> godix: well he IS european
21:06 <Minion> alot of rubber band effects near the start. it's the sort of shit i expect from dacoolgohan
21:06 <Kionon> After all, Kastles was what made me get the series in the first place.
21:07 <NikkiWhitecraft> I liked the story tell quality on the Vid
21:07 <jonnkakarotto> I liked how it wasn't all a giant cliche like most romance vids
21:07 <Kionon> The video pretty much told the story, all except for the end.
21:07 <Kit> how so?
21:07 <Topstar> What, you betrayed my love, now die? isn't a cliche'?
21:08 <jonnkakarotto> you know, the ones that highlight certain X characterxY character stories and whatnot
21:08 -!- Pankyy [Panky@CCCD921E.1412E533.7CBE0AC3.IP] has joined #amv-review
21:08 <Minion> i really can't follow the story at all. it's a dead bitch at the start. then goes through some random scenes that tell nothing about the story or WHY the bitch needs to die. then they fight to the death with no explaination. i'm argue to say this was just some 14 year old otaku's excuse to make an artsy video wtih 2 chicks making out
21:08 <Pankyy> hai
21:08 <Kionon> I N/Aed the effects myself, John.
21:08 <Kionon> I didn't see any.
21:08 <Kit> what was the ending like in the anime that was so different?
21:08 <Kionon> Kit: They get back together.
21:08 <jonnkakarotto> I'm not saying that isn't all that great of a story, nor am I saying that it's not cliche. It's just not as tired of a cliche
21:08 <Pankyy> i'm late? :P
21:08 <Minion> kit: spike dies
21:08 <Kionon> Very.
21:08 <Kionon> SPOILERZ
21:08 <Kit> dyke spies
21:09 <Pankyy> my bad
21:09 <godix> pankyy: Good news, WE GOT LESBIANS THIS WEEK! No titties though.
21:09 <jonnkakarotto> Kionon: I N/A'd em too, as I'm guessing you already saw, because I too didn't see any
21:09 <Pankyy> wii
21:09 <Topstar> So she dosn't bleed to death in her lover's arms?
21:09 <jonnkakarotto> THIS IS LESBOS!
21:09 <Kionon> I'm reading all the other ops for talking points.
21:09 <Pankyy> lesbians and no tits?
21:09 <Pankyy> and how's that
21:09 <Pankyy> :P
21:09 <godix> Not even a good muff diving scene.
21:10 <Topstar> you know what's a good Shoujo Ai amv? Unrequinted
21:10 <Pankyy> ok, i want to dl the video, but my speed goes from 90 to 35 :S
21:10 <Kionon> godix: It's in the series.
21:10 <godix> Despite that, it was still well presented. She followed the pacing of the music with fast/slower scenes as appropriate which, sadly, is kinda rare to see.
21:10 <Kionon> There's a girl on girl rape scene.
21:10 <Minion> ya know, i just noticed somethig theres not one piece of internal sync is this whole thing. jsut hard cuts and rubber bands
21:10 <jonnkakarotto> Topstar: No, no, I'm not saying any of that. All I'm saying is that it's not the same, old, boring, tired story that tries (and often fails miserably) to highlight how the author thinks the relationship between the two should be
21:10 <godix> kionon: I'm looking this series up on BT right now just for that. If I don't see some girl on girl action in it I will be forced to hurt you.
21:10 <quadir> Minion: the whole pressing on the piano at the beginning after she dies... then goes into flashback mode until it returns to the death
21:10 <Kit> Minon: what about the sword fight?
21:11 <Kit> looked like internal sync to me
21:11 <Kit> :s
21:11 <Kionon> Godix: It's about two thirds through the series.
21:11 <Pankyy> can i ask what you consider internal synch?
21:11 <Topstar> okay jonnkakarotto I get ya
21:11 <Minion> i'll give you the piano, but the sword fight could have been synced better
21:11 <Topstar> please tell me the main romance dosn't start out with a rape?
21:11 <Topstar> cause I couldn't get past that in the Yaoi manga, Jazz
21:11 <Kionon> Personally, I felt the sync was dependent on the ebb and flow of emotion. It wasn't beat sync exactly.
21:11 <Minion> piano was indeed internal sync. i overlooked that
21:11 <Topstar> it was just "okay that's not right"
21:11 <godix> Kionon: THank you. i appreciate you not only pointing me towards lesbo porn but even pointing out roughly where in the show to see it.
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> I kind of liked the piano scene
21:12 <Pankyy> mmmmm this video has nude ppl?
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> nice touch, imo
21:12 <Kionon> No.
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> no.
21:12 <Pankyy> then i'm gone
21:12 <Pankyy> no, just joking
21:12 <Arkada> pankyy: no
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> lol
21:12 <Minion> i hope i'm not the only one this week who thinks this video was sub par. only redeeming quality i can pick out is a lesbo kiss. and it wasn't even all that hot
21:12 <Minion> :/
21:12 <jonnkakarotto> the collective voice just spoke out, as if yelling at a single n00b in unison
21:12 <Pankyy> 50% and thank good that it's 21mb
21:12 <godix> I thought the sync was rather well. It followed the flow of the song rather than individual beat syncs. Which made the video just kinda fit the song without being so blatent you're thinking 'that's a beat sync. and that. And another' but instead you can sit back and just watch it without being distracted
21:13 <quadir> Minion: and the reason they fight at the end is cause she catcher her lover getting jiggy with a guy
21:13 <jonnkakarotto> which, is outlined at one point in the video
21:13 <Kionon> I liked the flow.
21:13 <Kit> I liked the ebb.
21:13 <Topstar> It was mood synch
21:13 <Topstar> which is good
21:13 <Minion> it wasn't a BAD video by any means. it was far off from anything i could watch a second time though. i thought it was below average. i'm a bit let down for a yuri vid
21:13 <Kit> alternatively: I liked the hustle.
21:13 <Kionon> Anyhow, one of the better videos I've seen that was entirely mood sync.
21:13 <godix> It flows like a woman on one of those 'problem days'.
21:14 <jonnkakarotto> mood sync is a good relief from all the beat sync you see anymore, imho
21:14 <Minion> dacoolgohan loves the cock t('_'t)
21:14 * jonnkakarotto just read godix's previous statement
21:14 <godix> I do agree with minion on that much, despite liking the flow and that there wasn't in your face beat sync I'm not gonna watch this again.
21:15 <Kionon> I've watched it four times since downloading it, so I will.
21:15 <jonnkakarotto> twice here. It's likely that I'll dig it up from the depths of my hard drive sooner or later
21:15 <Kit> I probably would if I had a longer attention span
21:15 <Topstar> I'm keeping it around
21:15 <godix> kionon: That's because you're a lesbian. You have special interest in this since it very well may end up being the story of your life.
21:15 <jonnkakarotto> ouch
21:15 <Topstar> there needs to be more good Shoujo-ai and Shounen-ai
21:15 <jonnkakarotto> you mean the getting stabbed with the sword at the end part?
21:16 <Kionon> If my life were only so exciting, godix.
21:16 <NikkiWhitecraft> there are some decent Shounen-ai videos out there
21:16 <Kit> jonn: and the arrow to the neck
21:16 <quadir> oh, and the fact it's an instrumental vid that isn't 6 minutes long? WIN right there
21:16 <jonnkakarotto> of course, how could I forget that
21:16 <jonnkakarotto> silly me
21:16 <Pankyy> is it me or the images moving at 0:25-0:20 are slowed down?
21:16 <Arkada> quadir: aggred
21:16 <Kionon> Pankyy: They are, I believe.
21:17 <Kit> speaking of short attention spans, I suddenly feel the urge to play pangya
21:17 <quadir> too often do people with instrumental tracks go 'there are no voices I gotta drag this on forever and be all OPUS!'
21:17 <godix> I also give the video credit for this much. It was NOT just two people staring at each other with an expression that is supposed to look moody but really looks like they're constipated until at the end when they kiss. Which right there makes this better than 90% of the romance videos I've seen.
21:17 <Kionon> I am very glad it didn't last forever.
21:17 <jonnkakarotto> This one's in my top 5 list of romance vids
21:17 <Kionon> I mean, that's the only problem with Far and Away, and I love it.
21:17 <Topstar> yeah, short and sweet
21:17 <jonnkakarotto> out of... like 10
21:17 <Kit> Far and Away?
21:17 <jonnkakarotto> that I've seen... Ever.
21:18 <Minion> yikes. don't like this router
21:18 <Kit> why does that sound familiar?
21:18 <quadir> Minion: can you follow the story now?
21:18 <Kionon> http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... o.php?v=87
21:18 <quadir> Minion: I thought it was pretty clear, godix said it at the start
21:18 <Pankyy> ugh,
21:18 <Minion> i rewatched the ending and retract what i said before. there is indeed internal sync at the sword fight
21:18 <Pankyy> he/she made this video with adobe premiere?
21:18 <quadir> someone mentioned it being slowed down... and it is... in a few parts really slowed down to match the music
21:18 <Pankyy> the slowing function sucks as the adobe premiere does
21:19 <Kionon> Yeah, it does suck.
21:19 <Minion> as far as the story, i get it, but i wouldn't have gotten it without the plot being spoon fed
21:19 <Kionon> You have to be careful with what you slow down.
21:19 <quadir> the video description mentions problems with slowing it down and being jittery at times because of that
21:19 <Topstar> yeah Kionon I'm learning that with the video I'm working on right now
21:19 <quadir> and I think the program used was vegas
21:19 <Arkada> kio: otherwise you end up with wmm's slow down effect...
21:19 <godix> It's especially bad at the start. The scene of her blood dripping on the floor is so bad that it's noticable even if you aren't specifically looking for things like that.
21:20 <Kionon> It was noticeable, but only when I thought about it.
21:20 -!- Kit is now known as Kit|isitcanbehiotiemsplees
21:20 <Kit> later
21:20 <Kit> be back in 9 holes or so
21:20 <Minion> i didn't find this video moving, which is what i look for the most in a drama or romance vid. again, it's not a bad video. not my sort of thing though
21:20 <quadir> seeya, bonus vid in awhile tonight
21:20 -!- inthesto has joined #amv-review
21:20 <inthesto> JUST IN TIME
21:20 <Pankyy> i didn't have to think in it..
21:21 <Kit> PERFECT
21:21 <Topstar> no bonus vid for me tonight
21:21 <Pankyy> using adobe premiere you have it in your mind
21:21 <godix> I don't know. Maybe I'm just tuned in to things like that. even not looking for it problems like that stand out to me.
21:21 <Kit> sto: you be me for tonight
21:21 <Kit> it'll be like I never left
21:21 <Pankyy> how is it that this video has 10.01 in effects?
21:21 <teya> $%&%#&#$% DSL tech support...
21:21 <Pankyy> he's cheating!!
21:21 <Kit> Pankyy: n/a
21:21 <Topstar> godix I get the feeling you're never not looking for problems
21:21 <Pankyy> n/a?
21:21 <teya> 10.01? how strange
21:21 <quadir> Pankyy: people do N/A
21:21 <Pankyy> it says 10.001
21:21 <Pankyy> ah
21:22 <Pankyy> gotit
21:22 <Kit> gotits?
21:22 <Minion> theres no HUGE problems that stand out to me. it's more of that theres nothing particularly good that stands out to me. no scene in the video really caught my eye and left an impression. aside from the lesbo kiss
21:22 <Kit> is that mrs godix's username now?
21:22 <Pankyy> ahhhhhhh, if you look at 1:53 the slow down messed it all
21:22 <godix> topstar: Actually usually I don't. 90% of the time when I insult a video I haven't actually watched it yet. The remaining 10% of the time it doesn't matter what I actually thought of the video, I still insult it because, well, I'm godix. It's what I do.
21:22 <quadir> I hadn't realized the finding the shell and necklace spining around 0:50 was a setup for it going flying later on
21:23 <quadir> I thought she just "came back to sanity" at the end with the necklace flying but it's actually tied into the start of the amv
21:23 <quadir> I like the dress tie-in though
21:23 <quadir> got that one
21:23 <teya> what's the dress tie-in?
21:23 <Topstar> necklaces always bring people back to sanity
21:23 <jonnkakarotto> the dress tie-in?
21:23 <Pankyy> at 2:15 he merges two videos and i don't understand any of both,... i once did that and crackz told me not to do it again and he was right :P
21:24 <Topstar> that's why they were invented
21:24 <godix> I liked the tittie grab myself. Too bad it was over the clothes though.
21:24 <teya> lol godix..
21:24 <quadir> really solidified their relationship without having to have both characters in the scenes
21:24 <quadir> the golden background at 3:02 made me think of the really weird animatrix movie though :(
21:24 <teya> ?
21:24 <godix> pankyy: Actually that is quite effective. IF it's done right. Which is rarely is.
21:24 -!- Kit|isitcanbehiotiemsplees has quit [Connection reset by peer]
21:25 <Topstar> if not necklaces them some other sentimental object, always makes the former friend/lover/mentor snap around
21:25 <teya> i don't like the golden background
21:25 <teya> is it the original anime, or added?
21:25 <quadir> godix: she attends the piano "recital" in a brand new red dress at 0:35
21:25 <Kionon> Original.
21:25 <Kionon> I saw no added stuff at all.
21:25 <Topstar> the one time it failed, I laughed
21:25 <quadir> but I guess she's wearing it the whole time really
21:25 <teya> Kionon: k
21:25 <quadir> my bad
21:25 <Minion> at the part where they're fighting and it flashes back to the boyfriend getting his shit ruined with an arrow, is that when she was telling her about it?
21:26 <quadir> Minion: I thought that was sortof flashing to her killing the guy
21:26 <quadir> ie, she kills the guy she cheated on her with
21:26 <Topstar> okay I don't want the series more spoiled then it is
21:26 <quadir> then goes to kill her
21:26 <quadir> then likely would kill herself
21:26 <inthesto> Oh wow
21:26 <quadir> Topstar: I haven't seen it
21:26 <inthesto> And instrumental about lesbians
21:26 <inthesto> I think this is the best video in the world.
21:26 <Minion> lesbians: SERIOSU BUSINESS
21:26 <Minion> errr
21:27 <quadir> Minion: just look at the scene with her and the bow nailing all the pictures
21:27 <Minion> fix that typo pls. vodka over here
21:27 <inthesto> WAIT SHE'S KISSING A DUDE
21:27 <godix> I must say the series isn't animated well. I hated the way the blood splatter thing around 2:30 looked.
21:27 <inthesto> THIS VIDEO JUST LOST ALL COOL POINTS
21:27 <teya> she's bi!
21:27 <jonnkakarotto> SERIOUS BUSINESS
21:27 <jonnkakarotto> AS ALWAYS!
21:27 <quadir> Minion: rewatching it though, I think you're right she is telling her how she just killed him
21:27 <quadir> and so she finally fights back but kills her
21:27 <Topstar> hmmm
21:28 <teya> nod that makes sense
21:28 <Kionon> Uhm. No.
21:28 <godix> inthesto: There is no muff diving, finger fucking, fisting, or even a simple tittie shot. There is a tittie grab in the video but they're dressed so that doesn't count.
21:28 <NikkiWhitecraft> lol
21:28 <Minion> it seems a bit better the second time around now that i know the story. i don't like the beginning however. for me its not getting good until she goes off with that guy on his faggy vespa
21:28 <inthesto> GURO LESBIANS
21:28 <inthesto> Fuck, this video is awesome.
21:28 <Topstar> okay, I've gotta head off. Anyway I give the video an 8.5
21:29 <Topstar> have fun with whatever the Bonus is.
21:29 <Kionon> I gave it an 8.8, so that's not too far off.
21:29 <Minion> i give it a 6.9. didn't appeal to me for the most part
21:29 <quadir> Topstar: recap your opninion? giving scores is pretty lame :(
21:29 <inthesto> Pretty solid video, though a big section in the middle was way too slow for the music
21:29 <quadir> you do that already in the op
21:29 <Topstar> okay
21:29 <quadir> godix: aha there we go found it
21:29 <godix> quadir: ?
21:29 <quadir> godix: dress tie in: 1:10
21:29 -!- Minion is now known as sierra_loorna
21:30 <inthesto> Yeah, right around 0:54 the music picks up, but the video pacing doesn't really match it
21:30 <Topstar> I thought it was very touching, it's convinced me to watch a series I wouldn't have otherwise checked out, great video over all.
21:30 <sierra_loorna> wtf. he can't sync to that.
21:30 <Topstar> is that better?
21:30 <teya> i rather enjoyed it
21:30 <quadir> godix: blue chick gives blond chick a red dress for the piano evening that they make whoopee
21:30 <teya> very clear story, unlike some
21:30 <Kionon> To be honest, I didn't see really anything at all I disliked in this video, except the way the end made me feel. Perhaps the encode could have been even better, but honestly, there's no real way of expecting that. This video had excellent visual quality, amazing audio quality, and great sync. I love good instrumental videos, especially those that make me feel what the original series did. This video has such a high rate of review for me
21:30 <Kionon> , that it will go on my iPod as well as into my permanent collection.
21:30 <inthesto> The story telling is superb, though.
21:30 <sierra_loorna> never syncs.
21:30 <Topstar> okay ciao for real
21:30 -!- Topstar has left #amv-review []
21:30 * inthesto goes to leave a brief op.
21:30 -!- sierra_loorna is now known as Minion
21:30 <inthesto> Going to bed early sucks. :(
21:31 <Kionon> <Sierra_Lorna> Wait, this video couldn't have been made. You can't sync to it.
21:31 <Minion> does the bonus vid have some lyrics and faster pace?
21:31 <quadir> godix: then at 1:46 you see blue chick after she find out about the cheating hugging the red dress all alone, rembering the blond chick she used to have
21:31 <inthesto> Rrrr
21:31 <inthesto> The climax at 2:30 is off
21:32 <Minion> brb moar vodka
21:32 <quadir> inthesto: I thought the story telling was awesome too
21:32 <Kionon> Wait, wait, thar's no climaxing in that vid.
21:32 <quadir> there is
21:32 <Kionon> I think that was godix's main complaint.
21:32 <quadir> there is even virgin blood gushing
21:32 <godix> quadir: There's more to the dress than that. When they were together they wore the same dress (IE :45) but after the blonde bisexual bitch left they wear different clothes.
21:32 <quadir> but then it does it again at 2:56
21:32 <inthesto> And I would have slightly preferred it if he synched the last note to the first teardrop
21:32 <inthesto> But that's just personal perference
21:32 <quadir> godix: I'm not talking about the red uniforms
21:33 <Kionon> The uniforms are their school uniforms.
21:33 <teya> inthesto: it's off? i dunno 'bout that..
21:33 <quadir> godix: there is the red uniforms (with white shirts) then there is the red dress
21:33 <Kionon> It hits on the second tear, but not the first, is what sto is saying.
21:33 <inthesto> Yeah
21:33 <godix> I know. But if you want to go all fashion police and talk about the clothes, then their uniformity of clothing changing to non-uniformity of clothing also ties into the theme.
21:33 <inthesto> In my opinion, it would have been a stronger ending if it just hit on the first tear, and then you don't see the second one
21:34 <godix> However analyzing some chicks clothes is a little too much Queer Eye for my taste so I'm gonna stop with that now.
21:34 <quadir> godix: that's a bit too subtle
21:34 <Minion> i dind't like the story telling. too generic
21:34 <quadir> godix: the dress thing was prety obvious
21:34 <quadir> the nacklace I didn't get till later
21:34 <Minion> the second half was way better than the first half though. i'll give it tha
21:34 <teya> inthesto: where exactly is this tear?
21:34 <inthesto> At the last cut, where there's the photo
21:35 <quadir> teya: at the end, photo
21:35 <inthesto> You see two little drops of water fall onto it
21:35 <teya> oh okay
21:35 <Minion> i was way off with the no internal sync thing
21:35 <godix> http://www.sivis.org/~sivis/effekt.png
21:35 <Minion> *grips n sips*
21:35 <godix> Leave it to kit to find that.
21:36 <Kionon> Clearly I think it was done, and is probably one of the better videos we've seen.
21:36 <Minion> include a pic of paris hilton crying with the threasd
21:36 <Kionon> I had never even heard of Sivis before this vid.
21:36 <godix> That was a tear? I thought she just FINALLY orgasmed and it happened to be that she's a squirter.
21:36 <NikkiWhitecraft> lol
21:36 <teya> sigh..
21:36 <godix> teya: /ignore godix
21:36 <Minion> Kionon: makes me wonder what video you guys have been watching prior to me joining in. or did you just really like the video that much?
21:36 <godix> It does wonders.
21:37 <Arkada> Alright Im out. Overall: 7.5. Liked the song, which was short and sweet. Effects were null, but the story was well told
21:37 <Kionon> Minion: We've been trying to stick with n00bs for the most part. People we think have potential but can get better, so sometimes we end up with videos that show potential but not a lot of skill.
21:38 <quadir> I think we've pretty much wrapped this one up
21:38 <quadir> roll call then I'll post bonus vid
21:38 <Minion> well, that explains why i've submitted awesome obscure shit and it not get picked
21:38 <godix> Minion: In other words, they show pure crap because it's easier to tear apart than a decent video.
21:38 <quadir> for those who haven't yet I guess
21:38 -!- Arkada has left #amv-review []
21:38 <quadir> I liked the vid, really dug the storytelling and the lack of draging on in a instrumental
21:39 <Minion> my closing word for this video review is "meh". say it with me kids.
21:39 <godix> I liked that it had storytelling instead of just moody people staring at each other for several minutes. Video quality could have been better but honestly video quality is the less important of the various categories. Pretty good for a romance video. But it is a romance video so I won't watch it again. Needed more lebian sex.
21:40 <godix> er, lesbian sex even.
21:40 <Kionon> I liked it. It does for me what the series did for me. My only complaint is the end. I'll rewatch it pretty regularly.
21:40 <teya> i enjoyed it. i guess mostly 'cause of the story. the instrumental worked well (which is rare imo)

[Sivis]

Uh oh, now that was a surprise for the morning. :) I'm not going to dispute people's opinions but I'll try to clarify few things.

First the source. It was from DVDs and they were quite grainy, I admit that I could've cleaned them more properly but didn't (and yes, I deserve to be punished for that ;), I just added little smoothing to get rid of the worst parts.

About the effects, there were some masking, mostly to get rid of some parts of the video that I deemed distracting in the context of this video. Seems like I succeeded there if you didn't notice them ;)

The clip of blood dripping on the floor at the beginning runs actually with original speed, as does the clip at the 1:01 (seems to be the ones people complain about most ;)

21:06 <godix> kit: Even if sivis has a penis, he made a romance video. He is not a guy.

Does this mean that I have to get rid of my penis now. :(

But, thanks for everyone, I really appreciate this :)

[godix]

Since minion can't post here to defend himself I'll take on the responsability of defending his good name BWAHAHAHAA. Sorry, I couldn't finish that line without laughing. My mistake. Lets try this again. Take 2.

Since minion can't post here to defe *snicker*. Sorry, sorry. Come on, you can't expect me to act all serious about defending somenes rep here. This is MINION we're talking about. Alright, alright. Take 3.

Since the pudfucker got his stupid ass banned and can't bother us for at least a week he isn't able to point out the log makes him look even worse than he normally does. At the point where he describes the video as 'a fastering lump of kak' he wasn't talking about Sivis video. He was talking about DTSEM. He was continuing my earlier joke about hijacking the review. He had internet problems which partially cut off his comments so that wasn't obvious though. Here's, basically, what he meant to say:

[23:51] <Minion> 21:01 <Minion> even managed to screw up the lesbian themes. . i'd say the first part of this video is the best part, which doesn't say much about the rest of the editing. now i'll get onto the shittiest parts. 1. the world trade center. learn to edit, man. 2. the starwipe thing. though this best represents your editing style. stay consistant with this. if you stick with it, you can be...
[23:51] <Minion> 21:01 <Minion> a fastering lump of kak.
[23:51] <Minion> 21:01 <Minion> i'd sooner watch one of dj izumi's videos that loop this even once
[23:51] <Minion> ...respected as sierra lorna some day. in closing, dacoolgohan in a gigantic faggot
[23:51] <Minion> thats roughly what it originally said. the review cut it off
[23:51] <Minion> retyped from memory
[23:52] <Minion> bumbed that it didn't show up

All other quotes in the log of minion being an asshat are correct and in context.

[godix]

First the source. It was from DVDs and they were quite grainy, I admit that I could've cleaned them more properly but didn't (and yes, I deserve to be punished for that , I just added little smoothing to get rid of the worst parts.

...

The clip of blood dripping on the floor at the beginning runs actually with original speed, as does the clip at the 1:01 (seems to be the ones people complain about most

Dude, that's some shitty ass source. Not as bad as some DVDs but still pretty bad.

21:06 <godix> kit: Even if sivis has a penis, he made a romance video. He is not a guy.

Does this mean that I have to get rid of my penis now.

You can keep your dick but you just aren't allowed to actually use it. Pretty much the same deal Kionon has actually except that you don't have to wear a dress. Kio doesn't either but it makes him feel pretty so everyone just nods and pretends it's normal.

[quadir]

tonight @ 8:30 EDT. you know the drill.