makeAvis vs VFapi discussion

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Post by Zarxrax » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:56 am

Oh, just noticed that new one you posted. Interesting. Whats most interesting is it was created in 2003(:?:) And I have never heard of this before.
Might be a nice tool, I'll run it through some testing when I get a chance.

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Post by Zarxrax » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:03 am

Oh, and by the way... I can't imagine that either makeavis, vfapi, or this avs2avi wrapper would be faster than any other. None of them are really adding any processing overhead onto the avs script except maybe colorspace conversions. If one is significantly slower than another, I can only imagine that something has gone terribly wrong, because they are all going to be limited by the speed of the underlying avs script.

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Post by taifunbrowser » Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:36 am

Zarxrax wrote:Oh, and by the way... I can't imagine that either makeavis, vfapi, or this avs2avi wrapper would be faster than any other. None of them are really adding any processing overhead onto the avs script except maybe colorspace conversions. If one is significantly slower than another, I can only imagine that something has gone terribly wrong, because they are all going to be limited by the speed of the underlying avs script.
hmm interesting. I really have no idea how they worked O.o

either way, vfapi runs snail-speed At least on my comp, so I'll stick with my current method :bwehaahahahaha: (Yes, I'm having a good editing day : 2:13 added to my amv ^_^)

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Post by taifunbrowser » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:05 pm

damnit, nevermind. Dont use this method (the avs2avi. IT TAKES UP ALOT OF RAM...

yes, I ran out of ram... and I have 2 gig... in vegas...

*sad day*

any ideas? Oh well... I'll convert all my footage BACK to vfapi tonight :( at least I've got so much of my amv edited :D (and the footage should just be plug-and-replaceable)


seriously though anyone have any ideas of why the avs2avi method takes up so much ram? Specifically in vegas, I suppose, after I added about 150+ "events" , everything began to slow and I got random exceptions because I ran out of memory.

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Post by taifunbrowser » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:14 pm

ALSO, a side effect of using this method is that your taskbar turns into this:

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Yes, it shoved my computer clock off the side of the screen :(
and my amv is going really well though, albeit I can't stop vegas from crashing long enough to make a render now :(

which is why I'll stop using it now :(

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Post by Tab. » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:43 pm

taifunbrowser wrote:albeit I can't stop vegas from crashing long enough to make a render now :(

which is why I'll stop using it now :(
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Post by taifunbrowser » Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:01 pm

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

K thx, I feel better. I'm in the painstakingly long process of exporting 5 second long clips out of vegas because I don't know my computers dieing (Note it's brand new)

I needed to yell, thanks.

Whenever I finally get the piece of my amv exported, I think:

Proposal: Make 8 beat long "measures" in after effects or vegas, and then string them together using a java-generated .avs file.

Unfortunately, tab., your editor isn't... existant yet (?) (especially for pc)

Oh hey though, can I draw... stuff... in avs? Like, fill strange-shaped polygons with a semi-transparent color? I could write a few scripts that do the sort of stuff Euphoria has if someone writes some avisynth plugins that can just fill "shapes" with a alpha-defined color...

More research leads me to some existant avs editors (avsFilmCutter)

soo... someone post something, I've given enough points of discussion, and am really just trying to get my amv skillz honed for my attempt at "Journey Into Synch"

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Post by Scintilla » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:22 am

taifunbrowser wrote:damnit, nevermind. Dont use this method (the avs2avi. IT TAKES UP ALOT OF RAM...

yes, I ran out of ram... and I have 2 gig... in vegas...

*sad day*

any ideas? Oh well... I'll convert all my footage BACK to vfapi tonight :( at least I've got so much of my amv edited :D (and the footage should just be plug-and-replaceable)


seriously though anyone have any ideas of why the avs2avi method takes up so much ram? Specifically in vegas, I suppose, after I added about 150+ "events" , everything began to slow and I got random exceptions because I ran out of memory.
Did you try using SetMemoryMax() in your scripts to limit their memory usage?
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Post by taifunbrowser » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:29 am

Scintilla wrote: Did you try using SetMemoryMax() in your scripts to limit their memory usage?
SHOCK!

will this help?

*does research*

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Post by taifunbrowser » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:15 am

wtf?

DirectShowSource("Lucky_Star_12.mkv")
Crop(100,0,-100,0)
SetMemoryMax()
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VirtualDub Error
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Avisynth open failure:
Script error: Invalid arguments to function "SetMemoryMax"
(C:\Users\Ben Braun\Videos\AMVable Footage\Lucky Star\Lucky Star 12.avs, line 3)
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OK
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^^^ THAT CONFIRMS THAT SETMEMORYMAX EXISTS RIGHT? ^^

well, whenever I do this:
DirectShowSource("Lucky_Star_12.mkv")
Crop(100,0,-100,0)
SetMemoryMax(400)

I get this error:
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VirtualDub Error
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Avisynth open failure:
The script's return value was not a video clip
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OK
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