makeAvis vs VFapi discussion

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Post by taifunbrowser » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:23 am

edit: oh, and the bait and switch method doesnt make much sense here, considering the EDITING is fine, I only get most of my problems when I try to render.

btw heres a clear thing that new users can get out of my saga:

HOW TO HANDLE FILES INTO AN EDITOR:
  • .avi (divx) : Make an avs : Load into premier directly, use makeAvis for vegas.
  • .ogm : Use ogm to avi (google it) : See "Normal .avi" for what to do then.
  • .mkv : use mkvextract (google it) to get video out as avi:: See "Normal .avi" for what to do then.
  • .vob : Use dgIndex to make a d2v file (load the vob, and save project) : use "mpeg2source" in avisynth to make an avs that hits the d2v file. Get TFM deinterlacing avisynth plugin and load that avisynth into premier directly, or vegas through makeavis.
  • .mpg / .mov: These should go fine into your editor, but these tend not to be very high q formats, so if you have these, you did something wrong :P
  • NORMAL .avi (not divx): Just import directly into vegas / Permier. (You want this as much as possible because it gives you more flexibility.
Reasons WHY you shouldn't ever edit with MULTIPLE mkv / ogm: (you can get away with one or two, directshowsourced in, once again I dont reccomend this even)
  • Every instance of a mkv file / ogm makes a new instance of halli media splitter. More services = more strain.
  • If you accidentally delete the fake avi that linked to the mkv or ogm, whenever you try to load your project that references it in vegas, because vegas has now made a contract with halli media splitter, haali throws an exception, ("Wtf, can't find file!"), and vegas is let there sitting there saying "What the heck is talking that halli so long?" and unless you can remember what you called the fakeavis, your project is screwed, laddy.
There. I feel more reasonable than yesterday :D

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Post by taifunbrowser » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:44 pm

oops forgot one last case:
  • .avi (h264) - this is sometimes gotten when extracting video track from mkv:
    First, get avc2avi (IT'S COMMAND LINE ONLY, SO YOU'll HAVE TO READ A TUTORIAL) and convert the .h264 file into an avi. Now,
    • If you use virtualdubmod, load the avi into it, and wait, and go to video > direct stream copy and just save as avi. It wont do any recompression, so you want lose any quality / and the file size will be same size, all it does is remove the "bad frames".
    • If you use normal virtualdub, same thing, but after you load the video hit "DELETE" key. That's it!
    You can then load that avi into your editor, or if you want frameserve it in.

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Post by taifunbrowser » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:56 pm

News: makeavis doesn't like me anymore, i'm back on vfapi.

Condition: the h264 import above worked in vfapi but not on makeavis.

Script:

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SetMemoryMax(32) #Is this enough?
AviSource("Paprika.avi") #h264 1824 x 992
BilinearResize(720,480) #its rough but close enough.

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Post by Streicher » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:57 pm

Is this some kind of strange insider joke I'm not getting?
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Post by taifunbrowser » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:33 pm

Correction: Even when vegas showed the footage, it eventually froze up because , as I just discofvered my footage was in ACVHD, which takes 5 computers to decode :P

So, after discovering that huffyuv would generate a 40 gigabyte long file, I remembered that tmpgenc is my best friend. at constant quality 100%, I'm getting 1 mb / 20 seconds, and the speed and quality are both comparable to my dvd release

Finally, when this finishes, i'll be able to start on my track, bashar.

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Post by taifunbrowser » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:34 pm

Streicher wrote:Is this some kind of strange insider joke I'm not getting?
ya I swear I'll stop now. this thread looks really crappy when i'm the only one posting.

(srsly, I wont post in this thread again)

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