A coach

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:05 pm

i think the hard part is coming across people genuinely interested in learning the tech parts...

also,when youre one of those people who try to help people, you often find yourself faced with people who want to be "INSTANT WIN" and get mad when they arent such... or are into amvs for "the wrong reasons" I would hope youre in a hobby because you enjoy the hobby, not because you want to be uber famous or the next "kewp"

though, I can also understand the people who are into the hobby as practice for a career, but thats a whole other level and rarely do you have to hand hold-teach those kinds of people

if we could make amvs directly from our brains i bet we would be set...

godix · Post by **godix** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:13 pm

Neo_Kuleshov wrote:you know, i think more AMV pro's should take more AMV noobs under their wing. i hear the pro's complaining a lot about how the quality of AMVs was better back when there was a technology barrier. well, maybe one way to fix it is to make pro's out of those noobs!

The problem here is that for a lot of noobs who say they want someone to teach them how to edit have an unspoken but definately present rider of 'like koop, decoy, the wondertwins, or whatever editor they happen to like'. Yeah, right. Fuck that shit. Let them stumble around in the darkness on their own and some will figure out how to edit their own style instead of mindlessly copying other people. Teaching the technical aspect is fine and fairly quick, it takes about as long as it takes to say 'Here's the guides. Now read.' Beyond that I don't want to see people teaching noobs. We already have videos done like the various 'pros' would do them, they're in the profiles of the various pros.

SilversLightning · Post by **SilversLightning** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:28 pm

JaddziaDax wrote: also,when youre one of those people who try to help people, you often find yourself faced with people who want to be "INSTANT WIN" and get mad when they arent such... or are into amvs for "the wrong reasons" I would hope youre in a hobby because you enjoy the hobby, not because you want to be uber famous or the next "kewp"

dewd who wants to be kewp?

I don't

dokidoki · Post by **dokidoki** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:41 pm

DivineQueenYeiweh wrote:dewd who wants to be kewp?

I hear Koop does...

...but he needs wayyy more practice.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:45 pm

Teaching wouldn't be a good idea because all we can really teach are the technical aspects of making a video.

A person must figure out what they feel will make a good video on their own.

Wax on. Wax off.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:59 pm

I've alway sbeen greatful for the help i've recieved from people on a 1on1 basis, but i've felt guilty for taking so much of their free time up with it. Maybe i'm just thinking into it too much, but i hate feeling like i'm imposing on people's lives, especially when they're people i don't even know in real life. Make a friend if you want a mentor... It's how i've met most of my editor friends at least. =/

Suggesting people go out and teach what they know is wrought with problems (first and foremost is that some people may be good at what they do, but they absolutely suck at conveying it to others) and (as kinion touched on) the reasoning behind why want to be taught is an important part of if they should be. People asking for others to hold their hands and spoon-feed them everything while they're too lazy to do any of their own research should be curb-stomped, plain and simple. People that have made efforts to understand the basics, and want help here and there are the ones worth instructing - there is something to be said for (clearly exhibited) potential.

RosenRed · Post by **RosenRed** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:12 am

Talking only from where I stand, there are times where I could use a hand when making a video. I have watched countless AMVs both good and bad.

I feel, the hardest part of the process is to bring your idea closer to the tools you work with. Let me explain... I have found my self many times, while having what I think is a great idea, visualising it, planing the whole thing in my mind and when I sit down to actually edit, I end up doing clean cuts and fades because this is what I know how to do. It is important to know your tool. The more you know the more ways you find to use it.

So, if I sat down with someone who knew his trade, I think I would tell him: "I imagine it going something like this" and he would tell me to try effect X, or techique Y. I am not sure if this is the same as watching someone else's work, though it can give you hints.

Besides, there are tricks in editing (some personal, some common among editors) that you will not find in tutorials most of the time. An example of what I am trying to say here, is lowering the opacity of a white matte, so the white flash is better looking for the eyes.

But generally I agree, reading and searching cannot be substituted by a "mentor" offernig you easy solutions.