What's next for AMV's?

[BasharOfTheAges]

I'm going with Niotex here re: original animation and the like. Of course only a few people will ever be able to pull it off - we'll probably have quite a few people trashing that because they don't have the time/effort to do it themselves.

[Knowname]

hahaha crackers srsly sarcasm

oic

That worked SO well -let's just see if he catches this one -_-

[Kalium]

Because it's a dumb idea and you should feel bad >_>.

It's not. What's the real difference between watching an Advent Children video from an LAMV?

For one thing, the anime companies are a lot less lawsuit-happy. For another, the site rules and site definition say 'No'.

[Koopiskeva]

This is pretty relatable to an earlier thread I had started a few months ago, so I can't resist in replying.

Times have changed, and they won't be stopping any time soon. The focus of AMV's has definitely changed over the years, going from very simple editing to some of the more advanced editing such as in the Technique Beat videos. It's hard to imagine how far the art of AMV creation has come in so short a time, and with the advances in technology and software, we can only expect this to get even more extreme.

Visual effects in AMVs has been growing steadily in terms of usage, and while it could get 'more extreme,' that is merely a side point as to how well the effects integrate into the video, the concept, etc.

As for myself, I'd like to see messages or themes conveyed through a group and on a much larger scale. So I think videos maybe shouldn't focus so much on the specific anime being depicted, but rather the message of the song and just make appropriate anime selections based on that (Examples: Dead to the World, Jihaku, Shounen Bishudo, etc)
The problem nowdays, or at least it seems, is that people seem content with just a very basic concept. As long as a video has some general form of concept, thats considered completely acceptable and a good AMV. I have to disagree there. I believe that a video should be judged on what exactly the concept is and how its shown.

So with that being said, in the future I'd like to see a lot more videos focusing on some much deeper concepts. I'd really like to see AMV's take on a near poetic like form or at least more videos with this idea in mind. I'd like to have to watch a video a few times to maybe get a concept, and have some deep message suddenly revealed to me (whether intentionally edited that way, or unintentionally edited that way) and just something MORE to AMV's in general.

So, you want videos that are merely more song driven? I like my videos to be driven by both the song and the anime, taking the relationships between the lyrics/mood/atmosphere of the song and the characters/atmosphere/ideas of the anime to convey the concept. That to me is what an AMV should strive for, a perfect combination of song and anime which drives the concept, regardless of whether or not we have seen/heard/like the song and the anime.

Referring to the 'problem' of videos having a very basic concept.. I don't think that's a problem at all, and it isn't a recent thing either (in fact, I believe thats what real AMVs are about, simple and to the heart of what the editor immediately wants to share to everyone else - that doesn't mean it'll be a good video though ). That is because I think of AMVs as a fandom. And as a fandom, people make things to depict what they liked about the sources as fans, not trying to propel AMVs to a higher level of whatever. The AMV community is very much a revolving door, with people coming and going all the time, so many people never get past that stage of merely making a video with a simple concept because they want to share their interest for the sources.

As for the rest, well, we all have our own agenda in making videos, and revolutionizing AMVs will most likely never be the leading driving factor for people to edit. It will merely just be a trendy thing to do until people realize that instead of wasting their time trying to deepen the concept of an AMV, that they should really concentrate on making their own product instead of manipulating other people's original work to make their concept actually mean something.

So I have to wonder, what's next for AMV's? Where could they possibly be in a few years? Where would you LIKE them to be in a few years?

What's next for AMVs? I dunno, all I know is what I'm going to be doing... which may or may not flop. Honestly, I don't mind people 'experimenting' with concept/effects/etc, but only if it actually has something to do with the medium that they're using as AMVs. I'd like to see AMVs grow towards that direction of combining the sources to make something more of what they represent, rather than trying to make something that isn't there (ie: you should just make something entirely original if that's what you want to accomplish).

[CrackTheSky]

in b4 "AMVs are dead"

[Greggus1]

Same with my vid daydream...if you've never read Yotsubato, none of it makes sense. And even if you have, you might not realize that the author of Yotsubato is the same guy who wrote Azumanga Daioh. So the video is really pretty specific in terms of it's jokes and comparisons, but hopefully enjoyable because in a word, it's fun. Same with Skittles, it's just pure fun.

Underrating yourself again. daydream's story is pretty much crystal clear and superbly executed, and actually got me to watch Yotsuba. I didn't need to know her, because the AMV made me understand her. That's what it's all about

As for stuff like the same author comparison, that's just fangoodies, and really just a bonus, not essential to the story.

You watched a book?

err, read >.<

Still, without the video, I wouldn't have discovered the sheer, ridiculous awesomeness of Yotsuba.


And on concept,

I'd like to see AMVs grow towards that direction of combining the sources to make something more of what they represent, rather than trying to make something that isn't there.

This is the essence of it all, and I've been saying it all along, and I'm not alone, but never was it so elegantly put

[post-it]

well, there actually are Red/Blue 3D AMV's on the site but everybody ignored them ...

after all, who wants to watch a TV series that actually WAS in 3D from the start!?!??

[Sukunai]

a-m-v.org vs thattube.

Well one is mainstream, the other is not.

One is just amvs, the other is amvs and every form of crap under the sun as well.

One is a place to hang out, the other is a place that couldn't care less if came or left.

Yeah, I think I will continue to prefer a-m-v.org, that other option has it's uses, but no one there really gives a damn about us, so I can't picture myself giving a damn about them.

amvs will only die if we let them.

[downwithpants]

some fighting-heavy anime to replace naruto with some nu-rock band to replace linkin park.

advancements in video editing aren't going to be in effects or the basic concept; they haven't in a while. changes in recent years have been social - more multi-editor projects, more frequent iron chef competitions, and structural - more videos as strings of quickies as popularized by amv hell.

[trythil]

So with that being said, in the future I'd like to see a lot more videos focusing on some much deeper concepts.

Then make it.

(That's actually useful advice when it comes to AMVs, what with the barrier to entry being essentially non-existent.)

As for me, I think I'll just keep dicking around with whatever sets of tools and concepts I find myself equipped with at any given time. That very well may be detrimental to advancing the state of the art, but it's definitely much less constrained and much more fun.