Have AMVs ruined anime?

[Fall_Child42]

Lulzy material

This was either the single most sarcastic thing I have read in a while...Or extremely Ironically funny.

Either way

this is some good comedic material

[SSJVegita0609]

With few notable exceptions, anime often contains simplistic plots, melodramatic themes, and overly expository dialogue. As people grow, their taste will typically develop to a point where that just doesn't cut it anymore.

Furthermore, many viewers begin seeking entertainment or art that plays a more direct, relatable role in their own life. While anime may still work for escapism, a 20+ year old is more likely to enjoy watching a 20+ year old protagonist in a live action film or TV series instead of the typically younger protagonists (generally teenage) found in many anime series.

Basically, though we may not like to admit it, its very easy to grow out of mainstream anime. Then again, work of artists like Miyazaki will probably always captivate us, no matter our age.

As it relates to the OP. I don't think editing ruins anime, I think anime ruins itself.

[Serv0]

If anything, AMVs has INCREASED my interest in anime. I used to have only a few shows that I liked and only 1 type of style of anime that I would even thing about checking out. But now after watching some AMVs, I've expanded my horizens and gotten interested in more and different anime styles and shows.

total high five to you there! it's true, if it wasn't for amvs, my horizons would be a lot more limited. if anything, amvs are free advertisement for anime AND music.

Absolute agreement.

This editor obviously doesn't know everything in the world. But Servo can testify that his likeness for anime has been resurrected thanks to picking up the hobby of AMVs again. And it's all thanks to the many editors in this community that have created many videos that work themselves to become inspirational.

And think about the other benefits coming from this habit.
How many editors here knew about the many technical skills involved before they joined this community? Or the possibilities of many editing programs?
How many people here took into consideration of perfecting a piece of work before they joined? Or perhaps the sharing of ideas, comments, or reviews?

Have AMVs ruined Anime? This editor, reviewer, and member doesn't think so.

I think SSJVegita0609 said it well too.

I don't think editing ruins anime, I think anime ruins itself.

Us AMVers, are merely fighting to keep anime alive.

[Kionon]

AMVs didn't ruin Anime. The late 1990s did.

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No, seriously. As I was getting into AMVs, I was getting out of anime. I first discovered anime that I knew was anime in 1992, when AnimEigo released the original Bubblegum Crisis. But I'd been watching Starblazers and Voltron and Robotech and such throughout my childhood in the eighties. Over the course of my adolescence, I found myself attracted to what I could get my hands on, and that was stuff that was bound to be at least a few years old or more. I watched Sailor Moon of course (anime on TV, wowz!), but also watched Maison Ikkoku, Ranma 1/2, Urusei Yatsura, Devil Hunter Yohko, BGC, AD Police, Appleseed, Akira... I traded VHS tapes, watched nth gen fansubs with printed out scripts from Usenet. When I got my seventh generation copy of End of Evangelion it was like the motherfracking Holy Grail... and in 1998, I stumbled upon Kimagure Orange Road. I had hit the pinnacle. Nothing could ever be as good.

By the time I was into college, the Anime Revolution was in full swing, and my taste for anime was quickly diminishing. I was annoyed by people who complained about how long digisubbers took, and how barnes and nobles only had 20 series and not 50... 2001 was the height of my fandom, maybe. After that, I become a grumpy old geek, who sat around with the likes of Amy Howard Wilson, Walter Amos, Carl Horn, Neil Nadelman, and Tim Eldred, whining about the good old days.

Editing is the only thing that keeps me watching anime, because I'm always looking for that next series that's going to inspire me to edit. And along the way I do find anime series I do like, such as Nana and Ouran, but those are rare. Anime is source to me, like random stuff is to a found objects artist. When there is an exception it will be because of superior writing, not because it happens to be animated.

[BasharOfTheAges]

I'd say no more than a writer becomes disillusioned with reading or a director with watching tv / films / etc. My father hates that when i go to see a movie i'll talk about the effect work first and be critical of plot elements over the actual overall feel of the thing, but once you train your eye and your mind to look at things a certain way, it's difficult to turn that off. I certainly don't have a problem with it and will often watch a series with an eye for "hey, this could be source" (in fact i did just that with Manabi Straight). I suppose after some point in time everyone gets sick of what they perceive as the same old same old in life. Traditionally that's been in old age, but i guess suicide works too.

[Knappster]

hmm I think amvs brought me into more anime actually. At first I like only watched dbz and naruto but then when I saw a bunch of other amvs with different animes I started watching the different animes

[Vir]

For me, no. Other people's AMVs only ruin anime if they spoil them, and I'm not clip-hunting while watching. Clip ideas only happen after watching an episode or series, or perhaps on a second viewing when I know the plot already - and if so it only adds to my enjoyment. With music, an AMV idea might surface while I'm listening to a song for the first time - or when hearing a song that I haven't heard for a few years, but it's not that often. Like anime, ideas only make the music more interesting. I do tend to listen repeatedly to songs that I like and grow sick of them, though - that's not so good but that isn't caused by AMVs. I'd do that anyway.

Anime itself hasn't gotten old yet, but I guess I've always watched less than most of the other people who posted.

[DayWalker B.]

On the one hand, I think editing and watching AMVs made me watch more anime too, especially when the vids are well done and look interesting. But on the other hand some AMVs are kind of ruining an anime. For example DBZ that has been used too often in videos and to some people it can make the anime unenjoyable through that, I guess. But I think there are more positive impacts on anime series through AMVs than there are negative ones.

[Deathscythe_Animated]

I too watch a lot less anime than I used to...a lot of my time nowadays is taken up by WOW. But lately I find myself getting back into it. It's like my interest ebbs and flows. There are so many anime out there that I want to watch yet it's like fighting an uphill battle. I don't see individual clips to a certain song when I watch an anime though, rather, I take the whole series or movie, whatever medium it may be in, as a whole. Once you understand the concepts and ideas in an anime you can actually get a better feel of how the moods in that specific anime work. Once you understand that, making the AMV is easier unless your overall aim is randomness or OMGWTFDBZGT!INTENSE(if that's a word). I could be wrong of course.

I don't think AMV creation in and of itself has ruined anime, I think it's a combination of life, maturity(I just don't look at AzuDaioh the same way I used to), and expectation. Eventually, becoming old enough, you are going to have a job where you work hard at making money and you just might not want to drop half your paycheck on that next volume of (input: Generic Action Anime Based Around Blond Haired Fighter Adolescents With Super Powers Whos Voice Actors Are Going Through Puberty).

Then, on top of that, as I grow older I find that my tastes are becoming more sophisticated. I demand more out of a storyline than "Let's go beat up the badguys and nearly get our collective asses kicked in the process!" Not that that's a bad thing but you need more to the story. Take Full Metal Alchemist for example, here is an anime that has a healthy helping of action where there is comedy but the characters are a bit more mature and creators don't hold anything back as far as really bad stuff that happens that breaks your heart.

Spoiler :

(Such as the little girl who gets turned into a chimera by her father then is later destroyed by scar.)

It's elements like that that make an anime interesting to me, I hate it when storylines are sugar-coated for the viewer. Good voice acting is also key to my ability to watch an anime.

Eventually you will see anime that you love so much and that impressed you more than any other that no other anime can live up to it...it's downhill from there. Your expectations are constantly bumped up a notch higher when you watch really good anime that it seems to hit a peak...then most anime seem really plain and boring after that. I mean come on, if you could say...blow up existence, would anything ever be exciting to you again? You can blow up existence! So what if I just blew up a tree stump. To sum it up, you can have an anime in your mind that is the Big Bang, the rest are just firecrackers. After coming up against dissappointment after dissappointment eventually you just aren't going to want to try anymore.

I like to think that creative people are bored with everyday life because the fantasies they come up with are much more colorful and vivid than anything that could ever take place in reality. As an editor of AMV's, regardless of my talent, I can tell you that I can only make an AMV out of an anime I truly like. I'm emotionally involved with what I try to do as creator and part of that requires that I truly need to love and understand the anime I'm cutting up. I can't just coldly edit an AMV from an anime that I've never seen before, it just doesn't feel the same.

[requiett]

No, 99.9% of anime being shitty ruined anime.