Vegas Movie Studio vs Magix Movie Edit Pro 12?

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Post by post-it » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:49 am

dkellis wrote:.. I generally use two or three tracks at most anyway when editing, since I think in an unfortunately linear fashion ..
.. there's nothing wrong with that - not at all ^_^

.. I've never hit the Limit of 4gig myself quite possibly because of how I edit things:
1) rip the VOB's needed.
2) edit at will.
3) save the final of that cut to DVD.
4) move on to next section of the AMV by starting at #1 all over again.
5) when completely satisfied with the Editing, burn completed edit to DVD.
6) rip DVD and use Virtual Dub Mod to make the final AMV.
.. the final size is around 4 meg per minute and fairly clean.

.. ? why bother with the DVD Burns and RIPPING all the time? Magix 12 is designed to keep the VOB's integrities in tack while other editors, like Vegas & Primere, convert the Video to a RAW state for editing. Direct Editing is the simplest form and Magix excels in this area. It is however the main weakness of Magix 12; not in frame dropping, but in Interlacing Errors between different rips -- something that Pro 11 understood and Pro 12 seems to be ignoring!

.. if there was a flaw that is over looked in Pro 12 that does stick-out like a sore-thumb then Interlacing Between Different DVD's would be at the top of the list. The other good news about Pro 12 is that, "this is the recommended way of Editing your DVD's" as suggested by Magix FAQ's. In conclusion .. whichever Editor you choose to use, read what the designers of that software recommends on How To Use Their Software.

~ fin ~

( I own all three versions .. Pro 11, Pro 12 and the MEP Commercail releases - FYI 8-) )

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Post by Willen » Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:59 am

dkellis wrote:
ffxdean wrote:thats the thing i did when i first started editing. What a waste of time that was in my experience :cry: . Now I just load the MPEG-2 in an avisynth script then feed it out using the vfapiconv, which produces an avi (of about 13MB of a 4GB movie) which you can edit (even if the original file is over the 7GB).

I believe this method is the best method ive come across and therefore highly recommend it for you.
I'm not entirely sure how this is done, to be honest. I may be thinking about it in the wrong way, but this seems to mean that I take the VOB file from the DVD (say, half an episode), index it with DGIndex, make an avs of that full half episode, create an avi wrapper for that avs (of the full half episode), and then use that avi for one particular 2-second scene.

Then I repeat it for every other scene I want for the four minutes of music.

Or maybe I create avs scripts (and corresponding avi wrappers) for every single little clip I create, which sounds a great deal more tedious, although perhaps not as tedious as my current search for that mythical "more than 4GB limit" NLE.

Am I missing something somewhere?
When I used to do that (AVI wrapper/fake AVI/frameserve) I just loaded the entire DVD's episode(s) VOBs into DGIndex which then produced an AVS file. Then I'd modify the AVS file with deinterlacing, resizing, etc. functions, save it and then produce the fake AVI from it. This allowed me to import what is essentially a greater than 4GB file into Magix without it making a fuss and edit away.

The problem (at least for me) with this method (frameserving) is that there is a lag between when you do something with the video timeline and it actually occurring since there is a bunch of processing going on in the background where the VOBs are decoded on the fly and fed to the NLE along with whatever AVISynth processing you added to the AVS file(s). Scrubbing for particular scenes became a chore after a while so I switched to making clips.

But your miles may vary and for some people, frameserving to their NLE is quicker and simpler.
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Post by Koopiskeva » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:36 pm

For better or worse, Magix ftw.
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Post by Kalium » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:50 pm

Koopiskeva wrote:For better or worse, Magix ftw.
Unfortunately, I do believe the OP has made his decision to the contrary.

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Post by ffxdean » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:25 pm

what can you do in Vegas that you can't do in Magix
Well in Sony Vegas (when you crop stuff) you cant exactly move the movie/object around unlike Magix where you can. Also the cropping tool is extreamly difficult to use then magix (because magix allows you to crop freely unlike Sony's Vegas your only allowed to crop in the aspect ratio)

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Post by ffxdean » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:29 pm

Oh another thing (which is not really important but i thought i'll just add it anyways)

Magix Movie Edit Pro 12 allows you to put the installed program (C:/Programs... etc) and copy it directly on to a USB Flash drive and then you can use the program on any computer without physically installing the software on that computer. (great for use in places like school, library, work etc). and sony you cant;

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Post by TaranT » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:41 am

ffxdean wrote:[.. (because magix allows you to crop freely unlike Sony's Vegas
your only allowed to crop in the aspect ratio)
Not true.

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Post by ffxdean » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:10 am

TaranT wrote:
ffxdean wrote:[.. (because magix allows you to crop freely unlike Sony's Vegas
your only allowed to crop in the aspect ratio)
Not true.
Okay. then how do you do it?

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Post by TaranT » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:22 am

ffxdean wrote:
TaranT wrote:
ffxdean wrote:[.. (because magix allows you to crop freely unlike Sony's Vegas your only allowed to crop in the aspect ratio)
Not true.
Okay. then how do you do it?
Open up the Pan/Crop window on a clip. Experiment with the buttons on the left side. One of them locks and unlocks the aspect ratio.

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Post by post-it » Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:22 pm

.. the only thing you can LOCK/UNLOCK in Magix is the time-line; this prevents anything your working-on "now" from changing anything that you have already completed.

MEP = Multi Editor Packaging
.. the Options are Separate Programs aimed at specific area's .. unlike Plug-ins.
1) Video Cleaning System ... not a part of the Movie Editor Pro.
2) KnockOut 1.5 .. a program for Masking Actual Images .. not a part of the Movie Editor Pro.
3) MP3s Codec for 48k sample rate 24bit Audio Encoding .. not a part of the Movie Editor Pro.
4) XYZ Depth & Rotation .. similar to AE when it grows-up .. not a part of the Movie Editor Pro.
5) PhotoShopPro Photo 11 .. not a part of the Movie Editor Pro.
(( need I go on T_T ))

.. the MEP has many things not found, nor is it available to the Public, and will likely never be part of Movie Editor Pro by itself -- therefor MEP = Multi ... sorry for the confusion; The Business Reference of MEP is Multi-Editor-Programs, not to be confused with one program added-on to another program added on to yet another program all working as one T_T that would be rather stupid and a resorce hog ( plus a complete waist of anyones time considering that you can only use one program at a time >_< )

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