Editing at 23.976 FPS in Premiere 1.5

SrgtWilco · Post by **SrgtWilco** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:31 pm

I was wondering if anyone could elaborate on this topic - the guide just seems to say "NO" without giving a clear explanation why I shouldn't edit with 23.976 FPS clips, as in, what exactly would go wrong. It also seems to be written regarding older versions of Premiere (I think), and I notice that 1.5 has a 23.976 timebase. So is there anything I should know about trying to do this?

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:46 pm

Uh... it does go into a bit more depth than that... If there was more explicit detailing as to exactly why it doesn't work, i'm sure someone would have found a patch for it already.

What the guides really wrote:There is no version of Adobe Premiere that can confidently handle 23.976fps footage. Not one. Even Premiere Pro version 1.5 which claims to have proper FILM support, is PATCHY. If you feed it a 23.976fps file it may or may not detect it correctly depending on how the avi header stores the frame rate. If you use avisynth, it will detect the footage as 23.98fps in the Bin but process it correctly as 23.976. This is great until you export sections, make clips, reimport them and realise that Premiere Pro 1.5 has gone back to thinking they are 23.98 again!

A solution to fix this for Premiere Pro 1.5 is hopefully possible for avi files, but not just yet. For older versions of Premiere you're SOL. It can't be done... so you have to work around it.

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:53 pm

Yes, but again, this is about 1.5. How about 2.0 and CS3? Have any tests been done?

S.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:14 pm

again? I don't see anywhere in SrgtWilco post where he asked that question to begin with.

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:13 pm

I know! But it doesn't mean that the question isn't valid or relevant... I have yet to get a definite answer on that, so I take a chance raising the subject again whenever I see a related topic.

S.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:31 pm

Well, you could always try starting a project with those settings and see if the same problems listed above actually occur, no?

Sereenie · Post by **Sereenie** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:36 pm

Sure! I have and it seemed to be fine. But I'm hardly an expert at such things, and I expect I might have done something wrong.* I can also picture it being like using DivX/Xvid, where it working once doesn't guarantee it will always be the case...

In other words, I'm looking for confirmation from way more experienced people, because I know better than to rely on my own technical judgment.

S.

*since it worked, would that make it right??