This is an issue between him and me which has been taken out of context and which is not relevant to the subject at hand. All I can say is that my personal voting preferences have probably fallen along the exact same percentage points.Otohiko wrote:I agree with about 80% of the JCA results but only 20% of the VCA (Jasper is probably upset at me for pointing out this fact to her
Run the same way as VCAs? I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this... It's a completely different contest with a different judging method and a very limited set of voters... Mind explaining what you mean by that?Lirinis wrote:Making it official and run the same way as VCAs should help.
You don't suggest doing anything outside the org, but you think it should involve the "whole amv world." Again, I don't get it. You know that there are other organized AMV communities that don't really participate all that much on the Org (primarily due to the language barrier. Not everybody speaks English, and thusly they're much more comfortable in their own setting. It's natural.)Lirinis wrote:Of course it isn't difficult, cause there are not so many other significant forums. Though I don`t suggest doing anything outside the org.
They make AMVs. They have their own basic community. Whether or not we consider their videos to be "good" or "at the same level" is beside the point (and pretty pompous. Like saying "You don't edit as good as we do so you can't play with us!".. What a joke).Lirinis wrote:Do you consider youtubers to be a part of amv community? I don't.
I'd be pretty surprised if there were more viewers here than on the 'Tube. Of course, there's no real way to quantify this because no one counts how many times they view a video on their hard drive, but I'd be willing to bet that the tens of millions of views that AMVs around the 'Tube receive divided by the number of 'Tube viewers adds up to more than the same thing extrapolated to the .org.Bauzi wrote:The majority of viewers lies here (I hope that it doesn´t lie in the tube) and the majority of editors.
I meant the technical side, not the rules. I wanted to emphasize that it isn't unimportant.AtomX wrote: Run the same way as VCAs? I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this... It's a completely different contest with a different judging method and a very limited set of voters... Mind explaining what you mean by that?
Judging by what I see, many people can't participate in the forums due to the language barrier and other reasons, but can use the site quite well. We don't have any proven statistics about the VCA, but it is sure popular outside the org. Lots of people, who never post on this forum, nevertheless vote in the VCA. Let them elect the judges as well.AtomX wrote: You don't suggest doing anything outside the org, but you think it should involve the "whole amv world." Again, I don't get it. You know that there are other organized AMV communities that don't really participate all that much on the Org (primarily due to the language barrier. Not everybody speaks English, and thusly they're much more comfortable in their own setting. It's natural.)
I don't insist.AtomX wrote:They make AMVs. They have their own basic community. Whether or not we consider their videos to be "good" or "at the same level" is beside the point (and pretty pompous. Like saying "You don't edit as good as we do so you can't play with us!".. What a joke).Lirinis wrote:Do you consider youtubers to be a part of amv community? I don't.
You took it too serious. No one said they couldn't. The voting was open to everyone, and Koop advertised it, as he said, to everyone he could in every medium he had access to that was relevant to AMVs. How do you suggest it's done better in the future?Lirinis wrote:Judging by what I see, many people can't participate in the forums due to the language barrier and other reasons, but can use the site quite well. We don't have any proven statistics about the VCA, but it is sure popular outside the org. Lots of people, who never post on this forum, nevertheless vote in the VCA. Let them elect the judges as well.
Actually, provided they looked around, they had every right to participate. There was no "user must have X posts" requirement. There was a front-page news post and everything. Which means a lot of users got emails notifying them. The Org administration took steps to promote this contest. If there are language issues, I'm sorry, but they'll have to find someone to translate for them. This is an English-centric site.Lirinis wrote:Judging by what I see, many people can't participate in the forums due to the language barrier and other reasons, but can use the site quite well. We don't have any proven statistics about the VCA, but it is sure popular outside the org. Lots of people, who never post on this forum, nevertheless vote in the VCA. Let them elect the judges as well.AtomX wrote:You don't suggest doing anything outside the org, but you think it should involve the "whole amv world." Again, I don't get it. You know that there are other organized AMV communities that don't really participate all that much on the Org (primarily due to the language barrier. Not everybody speaks English, and thusly they're much more comfortable in their own setting. It's natural.)
