A question regarding how you like to edit. (Premiere/AE)

Morten · Post by **Morten** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:23 am

WARNING: Many Words!

This might have been asked before, but i'll ask anyway, mostly because of a lack of effort on my side.

I usually use Adobe Premiere when i create my videos, but lately i have been training myself to handle Adobe After Effects and have learned quite a bit that would look cool in videos and such.

My question is how you usually combine these two program's properties in order to create a good AMV.

Do you make the "skeleton" in Premiere and then trim out the parts that you wanna edit in After Effects and then reuploads them into Premiere after the effect is done? Or do you simply create the entire "project" in After Effects in order to not have to deal with all the rendering and problems related to having to use two almost imcompatible programs?.

Is there something i'm missing? Shouldn't they be somewhat compatible considering that they're from the same company?

I tried creating a huge project in After Effects but its really tough to manage all the keyframes and the need to have a track for every simple clip. :/

So i'm pretty much looking for your oppinions and suggestions, i love Adobe Premiere, but the effects in that program are so basic compared to other programs like After Effects, and its impossible to create a video with a-m-v.org standards without AE.

Sorry for the huge wall of text, and thanks for getting all the way through it.

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:30 am

Best thing to do is to make everything in premiere and import the project of premiere into after effects... this way you will have everything split into layers and compositions, so it will be easier to add the last effects and adjust other things you might need to tweak.

Morten · Post by **Morten** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:32 am

mirkosp wrote:Best thing to do is to make everything in premiere and import the project of premiere into after effects... this way you will have everything split into layers and compositions, so it will be easier to add the last effects and adjust other things you might need to tweak.

That would mean to not create any kind of special effects like Opacity settings and such in Premiere since it would be impossible to multimanage everything in After Effects correct? Or is there a way to tell AE what to create as seperate layers?

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:38 am

that wasn't really a huge wall'o'text

I personally do my editing in premiere and then attempt to do stuff in AE.

premiere and after effects are compatible, which is a big part of what makes the combo so powerful. Being able to import a ppro timeline into AE is really helpful
Premiere pro -> AE 6
premiere pro 1.5 -> AE 6.5
ppro 2-> AE 7
ppro cs2 -> AE cs2
ppro cs3 -> AE CS3

I can do some editing in AE...but editing in AE is like trying to use a small car to tow a trailer

Effects aren't everything, check out the nominees for Best no-effects video in the VCAs for proof

Morten · Post by **Morten** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:44 am

Kariudo wrote:that wasn't really a huge wall'o'text

I personally do my editing in premiere and then attempt to do stuff in AE.

premiere and after effects are compatible, which is a big part of what makes the combo so powerful. Being able to import a ppro timeline into AE is really helpful
Premiere pro -> AE 6
premiere pro 1.5 -> AE 6.5
ppro 2-> AE 7
ppro cs2 -> AE cs2
ppro cs3 -> AE CS3

I can do some editing in AE...but editing in AE is like trying to use a small car to tow a trailer

Effects aren't everything, check out the nominees for Best no-effects video in the VCAs for proof

Downloading one of the vids now, another question.

About the timeline thing, what you mean is that i can import timelines into AE from PPro wihtout having to render it as a movie file or whatever? How would this be done? (noob question i guess)

mirkosp · Post by **mirkosp** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:58 am

Morten wrote:About the timeline thing, what you mean is that i can import timelines into AE from PPro wihtout having to render it as a movie file or whatever? How would this be done? (noob question i guess)

As I said before, he means that you can import the project file of premiere pro (the .prproj) into after effects without any rendering.

Ando, no you will not loose any keyframe or effect applied, everything will remain as it was in premiere. You might ask "why not editing directly into after effects, then?". Well, that's cause scene selection, hard cuts, simple transitions and things like these are easier and faster to do in premiere.

Also, @ Kariudo.

ppro cs2 -> AE cs2

Wut? o.O

Morten · Post by **Morten** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:01 pm

mirkosp wrote:
Morten wrote:About the timeline thing, what you mean is that i can import timelines into AE from PPro wihtout having to render it as a movie file or whatever? How would this be done? (noob question i guess)
As I said before, he means that you can import the project file of premiere pro (the .prproj) into after effects without any rendering.
Ando, no you will not loose any keyframe or effect applied, everything will remain as it was in premiere. You might ask "why not editing directly into after effects, then?". Well, that's cause scene selection, hard cuts, simple transitions and things like these are easier and faster to do in premiere.

Well, thats kind of wird considering that last time i tried that it ended up showing me an error telling me it couldn't load that project file. :/

I'll be sure to try it out a bit more though.

And thanks for clearing it up for me.

If anyone else would like to tell how they usually work feel free to do so.

Kariudo · Post by **Kariudo** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:19 pm

I thought that there was another version released between pro 2 and pro cs3
guess I was wrong