Is VicBond007's 2004 Guide still relevant?

Copycat_Revolver · Post by **Copycat_Revolver** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:42 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Are the lines on the source just bad interlacing removal. or is it some sort of video effect?

Actually that is part of the source, and just about anytime somebody releases a Kino's Journey vid, somebody complains about all the damn lines and a long discussion breaks out. But, yes, the scanlines are on every single frame of that series and there's not a damn thing that can be done about that.
Great series though.

dust · Post by **dust** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:15 pm

Scan lines are normal, what I'm looking at are the jagged animation lines. I can't figure it out!

Windows Media Player has a built in de-interlace’r, MPC does not. So, I'm thinking it is a de-interlacing concern but I've tried all these one by one without luck:

MPEG2Source("F:\AMV\d2v\INTRO2.d2v", cpu=4)
TDeint(mode=2, mtnmode=3, blim=100)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)
#SangNom(order=1,aa=32)

#deint = TDeint(mode=2, mtnmode=3, blim=100)
#TFM(cthresh=4, slow=2, clip2=deint)
#TDecimate(mode=1)

LanczosResize(720,360)
AddBorders(0,60,0,60)
DeRainbow(10)

But wait, why does the video look good when set to 100% or 200% (as opposed to 'fit to inside/outside' or 'stretch..."? That's does'nt have anything to do with the de-interlacing, right?

I'm lost.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:39 pm

Sounds like Anti-aliasing to me. ::shrug::

Malificus · Post by **Malificus** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:48 pm

Copycat_Revolver wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Are the lines on the source just bad interlacing removal. or is it some sort of video effect?
Actually that is part of the source, and just about anytime somebody releases a Kino's Journey vid, somebody complains about all the damn lines and a long discussion breaks out. But, yes, the scanlines are on every single frame of that series and there's not a damn thing that can be done about that.
Great series though.

That always bothered me, if only because I've never seen interlacing work like that.

which is correct?

http://mycatispesteringme.com/qualityco ... 337544.jpg

http://mycatispesteringme.com/qualityco ... 339189.jpg

that is all you need to know :3

Neither, everyone knows the moon is square.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:05 pm

its not interlacing, it was the artistic vision of the people who make kino's journey O.o (or so is my excuse for the tv scan lines effect through the whole show)

Autraya · Post by **Autraya** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:43 pm

I prefer how Godix said it "Cum-guzzling blah blah" much more effective at getting the "moons are round" point across to idiots, maybe we should amend the guide with his quote?

Malificus · Post by **Malificus** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:47 am

JaddziaDax wrote:its not interlacing, it was the artistic vision of the people who make kino's journey O.o (or so is my excuse for the tv scan lines effect through the whole show)

Right, but is there actually an example of interlacing that looks like the lines in Kino? I don't know how people think the lines in kino are interlacing.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:53 am

yea it looks like scan lines to me O:

i think people just see lines and think its interlacing O.o

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:56 am

Malificus wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:its not interlacing, it was the artistic vision of the people who make kino's journey O.o (or so is my excuse for the tv scan lines effect through the whole show)
Right, but is there actually an example of interlacing that looks like the lines in Kino? I don't know how people think the lines in kino are interlacing.

Who thought they were interlacing lines? I thought they were the result of using a bad script to remove interlacing - which is why I chose my words carefully to express that thought.

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:58 am

Bashar, you wouldn't be the first to mention the word "interlacing" when it comes to Kino