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Post by Moonie » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:35 pm

AMV_Ph34r wrote:Alright, I'll set the framerate standard to 29.970, format can be uncompressed .avi, .mp4, or .wmv. I'm not gonna worry about resolution for the first project (this will be a series), but later on I may add guidelines for resolution. As long as it's high-quality. :wink:
It might be a good ideal to go ahead and set a required resolution now.
If you don't, you could get anything from 320x240 and up
then you would have to resize some clips to be the same as others and that would effect the quality.

resizing a 320x240 video to 640x480 >_<
Also, you might wanna just accept avi files.
You might have some problems with wmv, mp4 and others
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Post by LivingFlame » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:41 pm

moonie211 wrote:
AMV_Ph34r wrote:Alright, I'll set the framerate standard to 29.970, format can be uncompressed .avi, .mp4, or .wmv. I'm not gonna worry about resolution for the first project (this will be a series), but later on I may add guidelines for resolution. As long as it's high-quality. :wink:
It might be a good ideal to go ahead and set a required resolution now.
If you don't, you could get anything from 320x240 and up
then you would have to resize some clips to be the same as others and that would effect the quality.

resizing a 320x240 video to 640x480 >_<
Also, you might wanna just accept huffyuv/lagarith/uncompressed avi files.
You will have some problems with wmv, mp4 and others
Fix'd and QFT.

Srsly. Without a standard resolution, you'll end up with some really low quality files, you'll have aspect ratio issues, and overall it can only do harm to the project. And distribution codecs (xvid, divx, wmv, mpeg-4, etc.) are hit and miss as far working in an editor goes. Unless you plan on running every clip through Vdub, which just sounds like a pain, if you ask me.
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Post by celibi87 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:43 pm

LivingFlame wrote:
moonie211 wrote:
AMV_Ph34r wrote:Alright, I'll set the framerate standard to 29.970, format can be uncompressed .avi, .mp4, or .wmv. I'm not gonna worry about resolution for the first project (this will be a series), but later on I may add guidelines for resolution. As long as it's high-quality. :wink:
It might be a good ideal to go ahead and set a required resolution now.
If you don't, you could get anything from 320x240 and up
then you would have to resize some clips to be the same as others and that would effect the quality.

resizing a 320x240 video to 640x480 >_<
Also, you might wanna just accept huffyuv/lagarith/uncompressed avi files.
You will have some problems with wmv, mp4 and others
Fix'd and QFT.

Srsly. Without a standard resolution, you'll end up with some really low quality files, you'll have aspect ratio issues, and overall it can only do harm to the project. And distribution codecs (xvid, divx, wmv, mpeg-4, etc.) are hit and miss as far working in an editor goes. Unless you plan on running every clip through Vdub, which just sounds like a pain, if you ask me.
Unless the person has a huge hardrive that is one way to go about it.

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Post by AMV_Ph34r » Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:57 pm

LivingFlame wrote:
moonie211 wrote:
AMV_Ph34r wrote:Alright, I'll set the framerate standard to 29.970, format can be uncompressed .avi, .mp4, or .wmv. I'm not gonna worry about resolution for the first project (this will be a series), but later on I may add guidelines for resolution. As long as it's high-quality. :wink:
It might be a good ideal to go ahead and set a required resolution now.
If you don't, you could get anything from 320x240 and up
then you would have to resize some clips to be the same as others and that would effect the quality.

resizing a 320x240 video to 640x480 >_<
Also, you might wanna just accept huffyuv/lagarith/uncompressed avi files.
You will have some problems with wmv, mp4 and others
Fix'd and QFT.

Srsly. Without a standard resolution, you'll end up with some really low quality files, you'll have aspect ratio issues, and overall it can only do harm to the project. And distribution codecs (xvid, divx, wmv, mpeg-4, etc.) are hit and miss as far working in an editor goes. Unless you plan on running every clip through Vdub, which just sounds like a pain, if you ask me.
Yeah, that probably would just be a pain in the ass...
You're right. Standard resolution would be good. 640x480. Should I restrict it to 640x480, or would it be OK to have that or higher res? I can resize it easily enough, but it may make the 640x480 ones look worse if there are better resolution clips in there. As far as format, definitely uncompressed files only, but wmv and mp4 files should be OK with the editor I'm using (Sony Vegas Pro 8.0).

So here's what I have:
<li>Uncompressed avi, wmv, mp4 format</li>
<li>Framerate of 29.970 (NTSC)</li>
<li>Resolution of 640x480 or higher(?)</li>

I appreciate your help and suggestions. :)
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Post by celibi87 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:03 pm

AMV_Ph34r wrote:
LivingFlame wrote:
moonie211 wrote:
AMV_Ph34r wrote:Alright, I'll set the framerate standard to 29.970, format can be uncompressed .avi, .mp4, or .wmv. I'm not gonna worry about resolution for the first project (this will be a series), but later on I may add guidelines for resolution. As long as it's high-quality. :wink:
It might be a good ideal to go ahead and set a required resolution now.
If you don't, you could get anything from 320x240 and up
then you would have to resize some clips to be the same as others and that would effect the quality.

resizing a 320x240 video to 640x480 >_<
Also, you might wanna just accept huffyuv/lagarith/uncompressed avi files.
You will have some problems with wmv, mp4 and others
Fix'd and QFT.

Srsly. Without a standard resolution, you'll end up with some really low quality files, you'll have aspect ratio issues, and overall it can only do harm to the project. And distribution codecs (xvid, divx, wmv, mpeg-4, etc.) are hit and miss as far working in an editor goes. Unless you plan on running every clip through Vdub, which just sounds like a pain, if you ask me.
Yeah, that probably would just be a pain in the ass...
You're right. Standard resolution would be good. 640x480. Should I restrict it to 640x480, or would it be OK to have that or higher res? I can resize it easily enough, but it may make the 640x480 ones look worse if there are better resolution clips in there. As far as format, definitely uncompressed files only, but wmv and mp4 files should be OK with the editor I'm using (Sony Vegas Pro 8.0).

So here's what I have:
<li>Uncompressed avi, wmv, mp4 format</li>
<li>Framerate of 29.970 (NTSC)</li>
<li>Resolution of 640x480 or higher(?)</li>

I appreciate your help and suggestions. :)
MP4 and AVI usually do good in Vegas. If you want to allow WMV then restrict the editing programs to disclude Windows Movie maker. The crappy file quality would kill any project.

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Post by AMV_Ph34r » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:13 pm

Yeah, I know Movie Maker Sucks, so I'm not allowing that generally. I only have one exception for now, a friend of mine doesn't have anything but Movie Maker, so I'm allowing him alone to use it. No one else will be allowed to, though. I took a look at one of his submissions, and it wasn't too bad. I think he has some program to enhance the quality.

Anyway, the point is, Movie Maker is not allowed.
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Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:29 pm

AMV_Ph34r wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote: except perhaps having your video in the amv hell series (a very well known amv series), or perhaps having your name next to Zarxrax...
That's probably gonna be the main benefit to people who submit AMVs (the part about it being in the series)
yea but amvhell was already a successful series...
or you are already missing my point?...


and as for movie maker - its mean to not allow people who use the program... it CAN export good quality, you just gotta know how

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Post by LivingFlame » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:43 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:
AMV_Ph34r wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote: except perhaps having your video in the amv hell series (a very well known amv series), or perhaps having your name next to Zarxrax...
That's probably gonna be the main benefit to people who submit AMVs (the part about it being in the series)
yea but amvhell was already a successful series...
or you are already missing my point?...


and as for movie maker - its mean to not allow people who use the program... it CAN export good quality, you just gotta know how
Indeed, the original AMV Hell was done by a whopping two people. It didn't really start as much of an MEP. People just loved it and it evolved from there.

And what's with the double standard, letting your friend use WMM but no one else? Either let anyone use it or tell your friend to pony up some cash. You can be selective with any clips that get submitted anyway. If you think the quality is too low after you receive it, then scrap it or tell the creator to try and get a higher quality version.
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Post by AMV_Ph34r » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:05 pm

JaddziaDax wrote: and as for movie maker - its mean to not allow people who use the program... it CAN export good quality, you just gotta know how
It can? Hmm... I never knew that.
LivingFlame wrote: And what's with the double standard, letting your friend use WMM but no one else? Either let anyone use it or tell your friend to pony up some cash. You can be selective with any clips that get submitted anyway. If you think the quality is too low after you receive it, then scrap it or tell the creator to try and get a higher quality version.
You're right. I didn't know Movie Maker could make higher quality clips, so I assumed he had a program to enhance the quality. In my mind, if someone else proved to be able to get a high-quality AMV out of WMM, theirs would get in too. But if WMM can make high-quality clips, then I'll let people use it.
How about if people know how to get a good high-quality clip out of it, they can use it. But I'll know if they did it right or not ;)
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Post by AMV_Ph34r » Sun May 04, 2008 9:02 am

sorry about double-posting, but no one else posted and I just wanted to ask this... :oops:
OK I updated the rules on the site and added them to this topic (check first post).
Does it look good? Any other suggestions?
I appreciate all your help with this, this is my first MEP.
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