Don't edit using Xvid!

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Don't edit using Xvid!

Post by KholdStare88 » Fri May 02, 2008 7:50 pm

Okay, so what do we edit with, H.264? </joke>

Seriously here, I've been hearing about don't use Xvid all my life, but what else should we do? I tried to convert one single episode to uncompressed RGB mode. Tough luck, because I just got a 24 GB episode to edit with... In a regular 13 episode series, this would take...312 GB to edit one series? Then I get Huffyuv codec and tried that. It was a bit better, cranking out 12 GB episodes. It still doesn't seem right. For a 13 episode series, this would mean 156 GB of disk space to edit one series. For series such as Cardcaptor Sakura, I would have to have 840 GB of free disk space? This just doesn't add up.

So my question is, I get it, don't edit using Xvid. However, what is the next best alternative that doesn't require terabytes of memory? Am I doing something wrong with the conversions? (I'm using VirtualDub.) I've read most of the guides, but it's very possible that I missed one that addresses this problem. If any of you have any advice, then please feel free to post. If not, then I will have to edit using Xvid, :( and we all know that's bad!
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Post by Pwolf » Fri May 02, 2008 7:59 pm

avisynth over mpeg2 vobs

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Post by LivingFlame » Fri May 02, 2008 8:01 pm

The answer here is to not convert entire episodes. If you don't want to edit with .avs files, then plan your AMV beforehand and pull the specific clips you need out of the episodes as Huffyuv or Lagarith. You don't have to plan every single clip up front, but have a good idea what you're going to do. If you discover you need another clip you hadn't planned on, just go back into Vdub and convert that clip to a lossless format.
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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri May 02, 2008 8:29 pm

Lossless lagarith encoded avi CLIPS with the audio disabled...

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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri May 02, 2008 8:30 pm

or huffyuv if lagarith gives you issues :3

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Post by Altrouge » Fri May 02, 2008 10:59 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:Lossless lagarith encoded avi CLIPS with the audio disabled...
Yup, that's the way to go. Lagarith works with my Vegas perfectly ^.^

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Post by KholdStare88 » Fri May 02, 2008 11:34 pm

Ah, so lagarith is a codec? What's the average size encoded with lagarith per episode?

Thanks for the quick responses by the way.
Pwolf wrote:avisynth over mpeg2 vobs

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Sorry, but since I'm a newbie, I have no clue what this means. Can you please explain? :wink:
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Post by LivingFlame » Sat May 03, 2008 12:11 am

I believe he was suggesting using the .avs files that AviSynth makes in your editing program. The ability to do that would depend on what program you're using to edit though.

And Lagarith has smaller file sizes than Huffyuv (not sure by how much), but it will take longer to encode.
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Post by The Origonal Head Hunter » Sat May 03, 2008 12:23 am

KholdStare88 wrote:Ah, so lagarith is a codec? What's the average size encoded with lagarith per episode?
perhaps instead of encoding entire episodes, you should just make small individual clips.
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Post by Altrouge » Sat May 03, 2008 7:00 am

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:
KholdStare88 wrote:Ah, so lagarith is a codec? What's the average size encoded with lagarith per episode?
perhaps instead of encoding entire episodes, you should just make small individual clips.
Oh, sorry, that's what I meant. 2~3 second clips come out at, like, 20~40 megs for me, so I don't think I'd want to encode whole episodes XD

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