A Playing Issue

MusoukaProductions · Post by **MusoukaProductions** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:05 pm

So, I recently got a new computer with Vista Home Premium:
Intel C2D 3.0 Ghz
4 GB RAM
eVGA 9800 gtx 512mb
DFI P35 motherboard
WD 640GB SATA HD
24 in widescreen LCD (1920x1200 is the native res)

So, I got everything set up and working. Games are absolutely beautiful on this thing and run smooth as silk (even at 1920x1200). However, I've noticed a slight problem with watching videos. I use Zoomplayer to watch videos (get my codecs through their install center which only downloads what you need and updates the codecs periodically). I notice that the edges of lines are "jagged." If you are a gamer, it's the same as the jaggies you get when your res is low or you don't have anti-aliasing enabled. For example, in AMVs, the lines which are the edges of characters are slightly jagged. When I fullscreen anything it gets much worst. I watch videos at their original size so it's not an issue with that. Is there some setting I need to change or something else?

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:15 pm

Compare the video playback with something like VLC - if it's the same it's most likely the video's fault, not yours.

Note - when full-screen you are probably playing videos at up to 3 times their native resolution or more with the resolution you described, so small problems will look a lot worse. Most of the anime used to make he videos were put onto DVDs @ 740x480 or similar.

Purge · Post by **Purge** » Wed May 28, 2008 11:28 pm

might wanna check directx is running properly - (all accelerations in display are enabled)

MusoukaProductions · Post by **MusoukaProductions** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:45 am

Looks like it was an issue with Zoomplayer. I tried using VLC and there weren't any "jaggies" when at the original resolution and they were barely noticeable when I fullscreened it. Thanks for the help!

MusoukaProductions · Post by **MusoukaProductions** » Sat May 31, 2008 12:01 pm

Well, I've got another issue now haha. I use Firefox and sometimes when I click on .mp4 videos, it doesn't download the video but starts to stream it in my web browser. I uninstalled quicktime, but now everytime i click on one of these videos, it just wants me to install quicktime again. I've tried the old right click, save as and that doesn't work because it just downloads a HTML file. HALP

Mosc · Post by **Mosc** » Sat May 31, 2008 1:15 pm

MusoukaProductions wrote:Looks like it was an issue with Zoomplayer. I tried using VLC and there weren't any "jaggies" when at the original resolution and they were barely noticeable when I fullscreened it. Thanks for the help!

It's highly doubtful that this is a problem with ZoomPlayer itself. VLC is one of the worst and buggiest players out there, so I'll advise you to uninstall your current codecs and install the CCCP instead. If it wants to reset your settings, let it do so.

The Origonal Head Hunter · Post by **The Origonal Head Hunter** » Sat May 31, 2008 3:56 pm

Mosc wrote:[VLC is one of the worst and buggiest players out there

LivingFlame · Post by **LivingFlame** » Sat May 31, 2008 4:00 pm

The only thing wrong with VLC is it's iffy subtitle support. MPC owns it in that department. :\

Other than that, I agree with The Origonal Head Hunter's little emoticons.

VLC is one of the best out there, right beside MPC and KM Player.

Mosc · Post by **Mosc** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:18 pm

The fact that it has no decent support for subtitles makes it useless for pretty much any anime fan. Besides that major issue, its progress bar is horrible for accurate seeking, the indicator on the progress bar slider has a tendency to jump all over the place on some files, it has buggy support for Matroska's ordered chapters, it has no support for DTS and if you find anything that doesn't work your only option is to wait for a new VLC release. After installing VLC again to see if I could remember any more problems, I tried opening on of my videos and seeking towards the end of the video. I was greeted with this nice error message before I was even trying to find issues.

I don't know what KMPlayer is, but assuming it's just a simple GUI for MPlayer it is indeed a hell of a lot better than VLC. Still, a decent DirectShow player (Media Player Classic, ZoomPlayer) with a properly set up DirectShow environment is the optimal solution on any Windows platform.

Mosc · Post by **Mosc** » Sat May 31, 2008 8:34 pm

Well, I just tried out The KMPlayer, and apparently it's not a front-end for MPlayer. Overall I'd have to say it's an even worse package than VLC. Unlike VLC, it doesn't even support anamorphism correctly, although interestingly it does for some files. Other dumb things include, but are probably not limited to: has support for DirectShow, but uses its own crappy subtitle renderer rather than VSFilter; 1-pass audio normalization is enabled by default which causes weird fluctuations in volume; my test file that crashed VLC refuses to play in KMPlayer for a full 25 seconds, after which it decides to play for 30 seconds only to stop playing entirely at the 55 second mark; even though it has DirectShow support it appears to use its internal Matroska splitter so it doesn't support ordered chapters; the entire program feels incredibly bloated; what the heck is up with those changing colors?