Do you edit 720x480?

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Post by Bauzi » Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:13 am

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Post by Willen » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:55 am

I like the idea of editing in 720x480 to reduce/eliminate resizing. That being said, only my current project (which is stalled) is actually being produced that way. I decided to try editing with AVS files again (via fake AVIs) and wanted to reduce the amount of filters in the chain. All the other videos that I've worked on (finished and not), I've used square pixels.
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Post by Zarxrax » Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:22 am

Don't you guys crop the black junk from the sides? You would need to resize after you do that anyways wouldn't you?

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Post by Unlimited Rice » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:23 pm

I edit with the project settings in 720x480 but when i want to check how the video looks in the end, I export the piece I want to see in the correct AR. After editing my video the 720x480 resolution, seeing the piece in the correct AR after all that time just makes me feel better. :P

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Post by Qyot27 » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:02 pm

I've not edited in 720x480 for a rather long time, but the only justifications I could give myself for doing it are if I knew that:

A) I wasn't mixing sources
B) Doing any sort of effects work (although when I would use 720x480 I made sure to have 0.9 set, so it probably wouldn't hurt but I don't like to second-guess myself if I can keep from it)

Otherwise I have to echo the standard arguments for editing with square pixels.

As for the black borders, most sources I have don't have huge ones (4 or 6 pixels on either side, maybe 8 sometimes, with few exceptions *like the first season of Mahoromatic, or the old crappy Manga Ent. releases of the Eva films or X/1999*, all of which I would try to scale correctly), and my eyes can't really tell the difference between the original and one that has a 8-16 pixel width distortion. Same with widescreen material - I don't go through the trouble to resize to 640x360 and then crop it down to 640x352 because I'm not that much of a perfectionist, and I can hardly tell the difference.

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Post by Mosc » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:51 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Don't you guys crop the black junk from the sides? You would need to resize after you do that anyways wouldn't you?
That's why most people I know generally overcrop to 704x480. 9 pixel bars of the 720 are technically junk anyway. I personally don't see a lot of reasons not to edit in 720/704x480, besides mixing sources with different aspect ratios (and even then, you can still leave one unresized). It's a heck of a lot better than the popular 848x480, which not only increases filesize for not added benefit, but increases decoding requirements too. Just downscale if you really need square pixels, otherwise keep the anamorphism.

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