New anime club at my old college (thoughts and suggestions)

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New anime club at my old college (thoughts and suggestions)

Post by CrazyLee » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:26 pm

Back when I went to this one community college they had an anime club. Since back then I was totally new to the world of Japanese media, I decided to join up. When I joined up, there were many people running it. Then after a few years someone took over, and the club didn't seem to be as popular.

And then a friend of mine took over, and he ran the entire club by himself, and did everything. He even took over the running of the website from me because there wasn't "enough naruto" on the site (at that time he was a die-hard Narutard).

Eventually it was too much work for him, he said he couldn't run the club and work and go to school, so the club died. I kinda blamed myself, I could have kept the club running but didn't have enough anime.

I eventually graduated and went my own way.


Now there's a new club. I found out about it when I bumped into some people passing out flyers. The people who run this new club at my old college seem like nice people. And they have a screening every week.

Strangely enough, even though I told them I'm the old geezer of the group, that I knew how the old club was run, and they could come to me for advice anytime (where I'd ramble about how tough it was in the old days, with VHS tapes and, and walking to the club uphill both ways, and how all these punk-ass kids have it good with their DVDs and torrents), yet they don't ask for any advice.

Yet, I feel they are making some mistakes in running of the club.

- They show all anime dubbed. This is the first club I've ever seen do this. I would prefer subtitles.

- They show a non-anime, non-Japanese movie every week as well. This week it was Hook, last week it was The Cell. I don't think an anime club should have non-anime movies in it.

- The running series are licensed ones they've bought or rented. One of the risks of showing licensed stuff is the fact that the US company might complain. Another club I go to gets around that by showing only unlicensed anime.

The series they are showing are Samurai Champaloo, Speed Grapher (both Funimation), and Noir (ADV, and the fact I know the companies of each of these scares me!). I don't know about ADV but I've heard Funi can be assholes to anime clubs. I worry about this the most as I don't want to see legal action ruin this club.

- Last week they announced an AMV contest for this Halloween. I know for a fact that unless you're damn good, you can't make a good AMV in 2 weeks. Also, half the club is going to be gone at Youmacon that weekend.


So, what do you guys think? Should we show non-anime movies? Should we be playing things dubbed or Subbed? Should they use licensed anime? Any other helpful suggestions?
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Post by The Origonal Head Hunter » Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:36 pm

Non anime movies? No.

Subbed or Dubbed? Take a vote.

Licensed? Up to you. It's not like the companies send out spies looking for clubs to ruin, and so long as there's no big to-do made out of it, should be able to get away without unnecessary attention.

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Post by Kariudo » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:43 pm

All of the things you mentioned are only a matter of personal opinion (though I personally wouldn't show non-anime movies in an anime club.)

Dubs are fine, anime is anime (in fact there are a few English dubs that I prefer over the Japanese dubs, like pani poni dash)

Licensed series don't mean it's not anime anymore (or that it's no longer good either). Not everyone is a diehard anime fan that only watches anime as it airs in Japan

Being a part of my college anime club for 4 years, though not ever being an officer, has taught me that anime companies embrace anime clubs. If someone did send a letter to company X saying, "I'm running a club, is it alright for me to show series Y?" they would say, "sure, go ahead."

Its entirely possible to make an amv in two weeks, granted that 99.9% of them won't have anything flashier than A/B editing...but for most people that is more than enough, and they have fun making videos (not to say that good video have to be flashy, just that most of us regulars have grown tired of simple editing.) You may suggest moving the contest back a week or two to let people prepare or so that the people going to Youmacon can see them too.

Back in highschool when I was getting into anime, one of my classmates organized an "Anime and Gaming" club which consisted of Halo...and about 7 people (including myself) in another room watching anime. Needless to say, that format wasn't very popular.
The year after I graduated, one of my friends took over and introduced more variety. He brought in more systems and different games, and actually planned the anime that was showing. The club grew under his guidance because he was flexible and knew that not everyone wanted to play Halo all the time.
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Post by AaronAMV » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:37 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:Non anime movies? No.

Subbed or Dubbed? Take a vote.

Licensed? Up to you. It's not like the companies send out spies looking for clubs to ruin, and so long as there's no big to-do made out of it, should be able to get away without unnecessary attention.

Suggestions? Hentai Weekends.
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Post by borpii » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:41 pm

You all are a lot more tolerant than I am- I don't take well to whippersnappers in general, but whippersnappers doing questionable things??

Our anime club does subbed series exclusively, though like everyone else says, it would be good to take a vote. I happen to have a VA fetish as do a few of our other members, but the sub-lovers outnumber us.

We also avoid licensed titles, just out of respect for copyright laws. That and the fact that if it's licensed, many of us have seen it already. If they're just renting things it sounds like the club needs to be hooked up with somebody with connections or an extensive collection. But if that's the best they can do, kudos to them for making do.

One thing I like about our anime club, at the beginning of the year they always take suggestions for titles that members would like to see added to the roster. The members love having input and that boosts our attendance. But I guess suggestions won't help if nobody can get their hands on the stuff... :sweat:

I don't like the idea of them calling themselves an anime club if they deviate from anime, though. Sometimes we show movies but if we do they are always Japanese. Not that there's anything wrong with random movies but that's just false advertising if they aren't even Japan-related. If they want a change of pace they could go out for karaoke or sushi.

At any rate, if they aren't asking for help or taking your sage advice, I say wash your hands with them. I'm sure you're more merciful than I am and you'll go and try to give them advice once more, but I'd just shed a tear for the past and let them rot. (god I sound mean...)

It sounds to me like that club is in need of an overhaul or at least some polishing. Since you know what they need and seem willing to help, I do hope they take your two cents to heart for the potential fans they may create. But if they won't take advice, *bangbangbang*

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Post by Vivaldi » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:12 pm

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wait... There's an anime club in Memphis? (TN?) is it at the university or something?
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Post by CrazyLee » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:21 pm

Thanks for all the suggestions.


Ironically I have found yet another club at this college. This one's been low key, under the radar, and very small, and has run for about 3 years or so. It runs two days a week for about 2 hours, which may be why it's not as popular, because it's at an inconvenient time instead of say Friday or Saturday night.

This club actually shows only anime and shows it subbed.

It's also aware of the other club.

This is how I feel... I like the time the first club runs, but I do not like the non-anime they play or the fact they run anime dubbed. This new club I like but I do not like the time the club meets nor the fact it meets two times a week, some of us work and go to school and are busy people.

I would like to see both clubs merged, or something of the effect. I'd like to see either advertised well, so that people who go to the college are aware of the club(s) and if they're interested can attend.

I mean, seriously, what's the point of having an anime club at a college if no one at the college knows it exists? Have it at your house if that's the case.
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Post by CrazyLee » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:36 pm

Kariudo wrote:All of the things you mentioned are only a matter of personal opinion (though I personally wouldn't show non-anime movies in an anime club.)
D-Reaper wrote:I don't like the idea of them calling themselves an anime club if they deviate from anime, though. Sometimes we show movies but if we do they are always Japanese. Not that there's anything wrong with random movies but that's just false advertising if they aren't even Japan-related. If they want a change of pace they could go out for karaoke or sushi.
I have to agree with this. Although they mostly show anime, and about 3-4 hours of that, then they show a non-anime nerdy-ish (or cult classic) movie, which is 1-2 hours usually.

The people who run this club seem to be the casual nerd type... they're casual anime fans, and they want to show anime, but then other nerdy or geeky stuff like cult movies and such. I would personally like to keep it JUST anime and run the movies in a separate but related club.
Kariudo wrote: Licensed series don't mean it's not anime anymore (or that it's no longer good either). Not everyone is a diehard anime fan that only watches anime as it airs in Japan

Being a part of my college anime club for 4 years, though not ever being an officer, has taught me that anime companies embrace anime clubs. If someone did send a letter to company X saying, "I'm running a club, is it alright for me to show series Y?" they would say, "sure, go ahead."
D-Reaper wrote:We also avoid licensed titles, just out of respect for copyright laws. That and the fact that if it's licensed, many of us have seen it already. If they're just renting things it sounds like the club needs to be hooked up with somebody with connections or an extensive collection. But if that's the best they can do, kudos to them for making do.
Well the legality of showing licensed anime is what I'm really wondering.

Say, for instance, someone owns a series. The entire series, every DVD. And they decide to show it to an anime club of about 10-20 people. Now, you could say that since the people own the anime, they can do whatever they want. But technically, according to law, they own the DVDs the anime is on, the anime is still owned by the dubbing company, and it's that company licensing it out to the owner of the DVDs. So the anime company still has say so on how the Anime can be used. I would like to say that hey, if the person legally bought the anime, it's okay for him to show the series. But it's not that simple.

Of course, it depends on a lot of factors. Another club I've gone to is funded by the university they are at, so they don't show a lot of licensed stuff because it would open up a whole crapload of legality issues. These clubs aren't funded by the college.

Also, it depends on the dubbing company. I have heard ADV is very good when it comes to anime clubs. However, I have also heard the Funimation is assholes and sue the crap out of anyone they can. Considering this is Funimation, and that they're based in Texas, I am not surprised.

I wonder if anyone here actually knows the legality of all of this.
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Post by angelx03 » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:55 pm

I know in the anime club I go to in RIT, one the club officers has to send a written permission to a specific company in order to show a certain TV series or movie. Technically if you going to show a certain show in front of at least 10 or 20 people, that's considered a public showing, and you need to send them a written permission.
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Post by borpii » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:31 am

Vivaldi wrote:
D-Reaper wrote:*Advice'n'stuff
wait... There's an anime club in Memphis? (TN?) is it at the university or something?
U of M and Rhodes College. I'm sure CBU has one- they're cool enough, I suppose. :wink: We're teaming up this Spring for a Japanese culture festival at the latter! Go multicultural awareness!

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