Captured video blurred, help?

[pixel09]

I've tried searching to no avail, of course I'm really not sure how to describe my problem. I am trying to capture video from my PlayStation 3 using Pinnacle Dazzle 150. However, despite it being rather expensive hardware ($100) it delievers very poorly on moving scenes or people/objects. The picture below shows what I am talking about.

picture
Screenshot above is what I get straight out of my capturing
Screenshot below is what I can savage from it with TMPGEnc (deinterlace: Odd field (adaptation))

Others I've asked have said it's my harddrive, but it's only 50% full and I honestly have dealth this problem since my PC was new.

[Kariudo]

It's being captured as interlaced video, which is a big part of the problem.

I'm not familiar with any capture hardware, so I can't help you with setup...but if you have the option, try to capture progressive instead of interlaced. (It could be that your ps3 settings are giving you the interlaced video, messing with the ps3 settings to give you 480p on the composite output may do it)

Also, use the highest quality capture settings you can.

The other part of the problem is that you're limited to using the composite video connection (which means that the best you're going to get is 480p, s-video isn't much better)...so quality won't be stunning (but it should be better that what you have).

if you can't capture progressive footage I'd put the footage through avisynth (using avisynth to do deinterlacing and other video cleaning/filtering will generally produce better results than using other programs to do it)

[JaddziaDax]

shouldn't the ps3 have a setting to deinterlace?

[pixel09]

I don't know of any deinterlace option on the PS3. My SDTV only has S-video/composite connections and the same is true for my Dazzle. Looked for a 480p option, but didn't find anything of the sort on the PS3. Though, if the problem is with interlace why do you not catch those same disgusting artifacts from just watching an SDTV?

The video those pictures came from had a bitrate of 6000 (DVD quality). I can go all the way up to a little over 8000, but it doesn't help the problem. Thought about Avisynth, but really there's so much video loss there's only so much a program could do. Plus I'm clueless on using avisynth aside from simple stuff like resizing, it's so hard to use.

[Kariudo]

bah, ps3 can only do 480i on composite/s-video.
You actually do have the interlacing on normal sdtv, it's just that the tv has filters (the comb filter to be more specific) that helps.

go ahead and push the bitrate to over 8000.

If you'd like to send me a sample, upload it to a site like sendspace.com and send me a pm with the sendspace link. I'll see what I can do using avisynth, and if the result is decent I can help you so you can do the avisynth script yourself

[Kariudo]

Well, it's not perfect...but it's miles ahead of what TMPGenc can do

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8344/ex1.png

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1763/ex2.png

Code: Select all

AVISource("C:\Documents and Settings\Sanjuro\Desktop\feilongdragkick.avi")
converttoyv12()
Tcomb(fthreshc=15,othreshc=15)
TFM(order=1,pp=7,slow=2,cthresh=-1)
AAA(us=1,ds=2,Xshrp=25, Yshrp=25, chroma=true)
deblock(quant=25)
fluxsmoothst()
limitedsharpenfaster(edgemode=1,wide=true, strength=100)

Now I have homework that needs finishing, so I'll get back to you on the avisynth plugins you need to make this script work.
TFM is the only one that you absolutely need to have here, everything else is making the footage look a bit better.

[pixel09]

Found the filters for Tcomb and TFM, but really could not find the rest. The video looks way better than I expected just with that, though. Thank you so very much!

[Kariudo]

limitedsharpenfaster
(copy/paste the code into notepad, save as .avsi and put into ../program files/avisynth2.5/plugins)
fluxsmooth
(it gives you fluxsmootht and fluxsmoothst)
deblock
AAA
unfilter among many others (unfilter is required for aaa)

[pixel09]

Ok, I am given two errors from VirtualDub from this now.

Code: Select all

Import: couldn't open "C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\avsfilter.vdf.avs"

It gives this error, but let's me go ahead and open it. I haven't overwrited anything, so I don't know why it would be giving me this error.

When I add the limitedsharpenfaster line to the code it gives me this error. I've downloaded Remove Grain twice and it hasn't solved the problem.

Code: Select all

Avisynth open failure:
RemoveGrain: invalid mode 20
[LimitedSharpenFaster.avsi,line 73
[C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Documents\feilongdragkick2.avs, line 8]

[Kariudo]

avsfilter.vdf.avs sounds like a virtualdub filter instead of an avisynth one.

you need removegrain v1.0 or later for limitedsharpenfaster
if that doesn't work then you can try the normal limitedsharpen