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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by mirkosp » Sun May 10, 2009 4:17 pm

Qyot27 wrote: 1) I'd recommend stressing that determining proper aspect/cropping is easiest if it is 1:1 - the bolded sentence is a good reminder, but perhaps elaborate on why it's easier with 1:1. If you know that DVDs only come in 4:3 or 16:9 (because even though MPEG-2 does support 2.21:1 flags, the DVD standard does not), and you know what the proper 1:1 size is for your region when dealing with those frame geometries (640x480, 848x480, 768x576, 1024x576), you can pre-resize the video, and then the cropped size is already in the correct ratio and it can be resized proportionally to the desired final resolution without issue.
Fix'd. 4:3 with a 1.0 PAR with PAL footage is 768x576. 720x576 is just the standard resolution with the proper PAR set. :P
3) A little expansion on mod16 might be in order, primarily concerning any borders that need to be put back on the video, such as for manual letterboxing in the event using a 16:9 flag isn't an option. 640x368 may be a mod16 res, but to make it 640x480, neither of the borders - if the same amount of pixels on both sides - are. Either the top or bottom would need 8 more border pixels than the other, or you need to use 640x352 instead (as 640x352 is also mod16, and both of the borders are as well).
I've been wondering about the mod16 issue as of lately... that's 'cause 1080p isn't mod16 - the mod16 res would be 1088, hence why on blu-ray discs the actual resolution is 1088, and gets cropped by 8 over playback, or, well, that's to my understanding. Despite of that, I do see a lot of actual 1920x1080 videos all over the internet - it's just a standard resolution. So my point would be, as long as it's at least mod8 there shouldn't be any issue. Of course mod16 is still recommended, but if it's mod8, I think it's still fine, especially when it comes to "standard" mod8 resolutions.
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Qyot27 » Sun May 10, 2009 10:11 pm

mirkosp wrote:Fix'd. 4:3 with a 1.0 PAR with PAL footage is 768x576. 720x576 is just the standard resolution with the proper PAR set. :P
Whoops. At least I got the 16:9 value right.
I've been wondering about the mod16 issue as of lately... that's 'cause 1080p isn't mod16 - the mod16 res would be 1088, hence why on blu-ray discs the actual resolution is 1088, and gets cropped by 8 over playback, or, well, that's to my understanding. Despite of that, I do see a lot of actual 1920x1080 videos all over the internet - it's just a standard resolution. So my point would be, as long as it's at least mod8 there shouldn't be any issue. Of course mod16 is still recommended, but if it's mod8, I think it's still fine, especially when it comes to "standard" mod8 resolutions.
Mod8 is fine for H.264 (or at least passable), and I think ASP is okay with it also, but it might not be for MPEG-2, which is what would probably be used in instances that manual letterboxing is likely to be necessary (convention submissions mainly; mixing ratios would be another reason to letterbox, but I don't really see mixed-ratio vids getting more common since most everything now is in 16:9 anyway*).

*Yes, I'm aware of broadcast delays, but the point being that the 16:9 versions still get broadcast later on or show up on the DVDs.
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Aneino_Kaijin » Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:40 am

Might be a dumb question, but were some of the options under cleanup (Especially deinterlacing) taken out with the updated version of Ermac and Absolute Destiny's guide? And if so, is the old version still available somewhere for download?
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Willen » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:19 am

Aneino_Kaijin wrote:Might be a dumb question, but were some of the options under cleanup (Especially deinterlacing) taken out with the updated version of Ermac and Absolute Destiny's guide? And if so, is the old version still available somewhere for download?
The old versions are linked to in the description of AbsoluteDestiny & ErMaC's Technical Guides to All Things Audio and Video mk3 here: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/

For your convenience, here are the links:
v2: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/
v1: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtechold/
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Re: NEW Guides and AmvApp BETA

Post by Zarxrax » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:42 am

The deinterlacing options are mostly all still there, but I have now tried to simplify them all under the "AMVDeint" avisynth function. On the page dealing with interlacing, it still mentions the actual filters and settings that are recommended.

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