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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by OtakuGT18 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:59 am

deuceloosely wrote: The Power Rangers vid was funnier but yours was absolutely more annoying. The song itself is pretty monotonous and repetitive by midway through (it's in my mp3 library somewhere, and I'll be damned if it isn't stuck on a loop in my head now). Personally, I think this "Torture" category should remain with up to five entries and be distributed as was during the contest: in between categories.
Hey smart guy. Guess what?

THERE WERE ONLY TWO VIDEOS. Not even 5 which would be your "limit" you propose here.

Not sure what you're complaining about as I think a load of people misinterpreted of what Torture videos were. Personally, I had to roll my eyes at both, so they did what they did; tortured me.



deuceloosely wrote: I wasn't convinced that the category would work but it was executed right, and now I believe (aaaaaaaaa-men! :P). Please for to consider keeping it?

I heard that there wouldn't be one but I don't know...D:
deuceloosely wrote: Aside from the special categories and awards, I saw plenty of evidence to support our decision at NekoCon's AMV contest to take general category voting out of the viewers' hands. They'll decide Best in Show but we're making sure nothing is miscategorized and that the playing field is leveled by having a panel of unbiased judges decide the winners.

So wait..

Just because YOU didn't like what was shown and because YOU disagree you feel a false sense of security thinking "Man I sure do feel superior that my staff handles everything better because the viewers aren't really doing anything except juding ONE category! Awesome!"? Are you really....that egotistical?

In one way I see you being a complete douche. Can I call you doucheloosely?

Okay so here's the thing douche...

If you only have one category for people really to vote, what much incentive is there for anyone to stay at the contest? Someone who's easily bored could just simply write a number/name of who they're voting for just to get out but anyone *myself included* who comes to a contest and sees multiple categories that I'll be voting for "best of" makes me want to stay to see the rest.

deuceloosely wrote:The results? Oh, a trailer that was semi-amusing won for Comedy because that's the category it was in. A dramatic video which largely lacked action won the Action category. My initial choice for Drama didn't win but it took a second look at the winner to understand why it won. And for once I actually enjoyed the Romance entries (wonderful piece, Jaddzie, and congrats!). While I would have rather seen the "Russian dance" video win for Upbeat, the winning entry had all the special effects and extras one expects within this category.
WOW IT SURE IS LOLOPINIONS IN HERE!

A trailer that was submitted was funny. Loads of people loved it. People love One Piece and people love movie-trailer-parodies. Get over it. When concerning that Gurren Lagann inspirational AMV, I was told it'd only make sense for something immensely loved (I think that "We Need You" video was favored) to win the entire show (Best in Show), and not just that category (Comedy). Maybe they had to move it down to ALLOW something like that video to win the entire show so that it wouldn't win Comedy? I mean I can't imagine the guy who has to deal with knowing his video got beat by another video that (would have) won two categories, "Best In Show" included. I'd be going "What the hell does he need two awards for? He won Best in Show, why should he get Best in Comedy too? That's basically winning it twice!".

See my point?

...and wait..

Wait...an AMV with LARGELY lacking action? The Claymore video? Haha...you're not serious are you? Oh wait, you are? HAHAHAHAHAH. Hellooo-oooo? THERE WAS A GIRL WHO WAS BEHEADED NOT EVEN HALFWAY INTO THE SONG HOW IS THAT NOT ACTION ENOUGH? Just because it's an Action AMV doesn't mean senseless violence HAS to endure all the way throughout, and I think a lot of people noticed that. Maybe you just need to get your head out of your ass. Or get a less biased opinion, I'm not sure which.

deuceloosely wrote: But the thing that nailed it for me about "one viewer, one vote" was how the Best in Show award was explained. First of all, Vlad totally delivered with his entry. I voted for the "Killer Tomatoes" video to win Comedy but, as it was told, Vlad would have won that category by popular vote but was only awarded the Best in Show, making the actual 2nd place vote-getter the category winner (the trailer). The runner-up (actual 3rd place) was "Lollipop"...poor Alucard. :P Had judges been in charge of voting, I'd have to say the trailer would have been looked at as just that, Alucard might have won, and "Killer Tomatoes" would have made runner-up.
You sure talk like you know how the judges think. Why is that?

Anyways that "Killer Tomatoes" video was funny.................for about the first minute until it died down. The song or the video itself presented little to nothing extra throughout the rest. Sure it had its moments but I do notice that a lot of what people found "Funny" is the majority of the audience who voted for it were old and could relate to the original movie with said theme.

deuceloosely wrote: But the bottom line is this: the decision to not allow Vlad to win both category and Best in Show not only nullifies democratic vote but goes against past years when the awards were given to who won them, regardless if they won multiple awards. If a video is that good and everyone agrees, the decision shouldn't be negated because the fans thought it deserved those honors. For this reason, if the fans happen to agree that their choice for Best in Show was also our choice to win a category, so be it. The video was that good.
I heard the reason being a lot of this was done (with the multiple winning bit) that controversy keeps getting spewed about *at AMA* either the audience or the judges being biased *or other slander being spread* when it came to voting. I mean if that video won both categories don't you think people would start going "It just won because it's Gurren Lagann and the host himself is a cosplayer for a Gurren Lagann character" or so forth and so forth?

All I'm saying is that tons of crap can happen and people spout useless banter that hurts people and reputations so maybe the judges considered that and made it easy for EVERYONE to win something.

Again, if Vlad understands that by winning "Best in Show" that he won the WHOLE CONTEST then maybe he won't be pissed about not winning Comedy. I doubt that by his humor in the video that he'd be pissed at all. Unlike yourself it seems.

Because you know...that only makes sense.

deuceloosely wrote:Never mind the fact this system will take the rabid fangirls out of the equation. It's been made evident that any video with overt yaoi references, no matter who is being shipped, will do well because of them. This way, a more stable curve is maintained. Also, since there's a substantial amount of dissension among the viewers on who "should have" won and why based on their personal criteria, a panel of judges will balance the scales for them. The yaoi fangirls won't have to hate the critics and the AMV editors won't feel like they'd been snubbed because they didn't choose the popular anime or song for the time.

*sigh*
...uhm.

Did you NOT see that the very video that had Yaoi in it had Yuri as well and several accounts of clips being hinted at shown ecchi? Everybody gets a taste of fanservice, why are you complaining? Personally all you are doing at THIS point is shouting "Waaaa they pulled the Yaoi fancard now the video I wanted to win won't win because editor X did that waaaaah!".

Also, it's more than just having a popular song to make something work. I think that was very apparent in this whole contest as I saw it.

deuceloosely wrote: Just sayin'. I don't mean to sound harsh but some things just struck me as "off" this year.

Anyway, congrats to the winners. And Vlad...excellent PSA! Has it been posted anywhere?
Yeah.....I don't buy you saying "don't mean to sound harsh" when you just wrote a very polite post hinting at yourself REALLY going "F*** all of the winners" even though I could be wrong on some things.


I doubt it.
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by meleechampion » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:14 am

OtakuGT18 wrote:tl;dr
Uh.... aside... (to bryan)

Thanks for running the contest?
I'm sure it wasn't perfect, but you did the best you could?
Take six months off then read anything anyone has to say?

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Moonlight Soldier » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:21 am

meleechampion wrote:
OtakuGT18 wrote:tl;dr
Uh.... aside... (to bryan)

Thanks for running the contest?
I'm sure it wasn't perfect, but you did the best you could?
Take six months off then read anything anyone has to say?

(suggestions)
Oo'
Indeed thanks Bryan.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Squancho » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:56 am

Seriously, Brian...not about you at all. People are gonna have differences in and reasons for administering their AMV contests as they do and that's fine. I'm just shooting from my perspective based on past years at AMA and other AMV contests I've seen. Katsucon didn't even award anything to the runners-up, much less announce them, and I thought that kinda sucked. Leaving those in is just as much validation as winning; you just don't get the big trophy.

Between TekkoshoCon 2008 and 2009, I've very much enjoyed watching and hearing the audience respond to my entries whether or not I was mentioned during the award ceremonies. It's been a testament to my improvement overall as an editor after the first 2 1/2 years without making a ballot.

Anyway, I really wanted to enter the Torture category and would have, had it not been for long-standing computer issues being finally resolved after the submission deadline. That and I had to put a rush on AMV Salad 3. I should go ahead with my idea anyway and throw it at the next open contest to see how it lands. ;)

Just keep doing things how you see fit. Never mind whatever negativity or dissent may exist in this forum. I'm not trying to be right. Just sayin'...y'know? Take my rant or whatever as you will.

Bottom line: this is the first AMV contest I've stayed all the way through since last AMA. There were a few obvious clinkers, going by audience reaction, but it was more entertaining than anything. Although my initial choice for Torture was the Power Rangers clip, it turned out to be funny just the first time. The winner truly earned this award... :P
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:07 am

Well, now that the fist fight has hopefully died down, I'd like to say congrats to all the winners...

And for the record, quite honesty, if the audiance enjoyed my video then I'm more then happy with that (after all, that is the reason I made it in the first place) If it won Best of Show (and I'll wait for the offical results), well that icing on the cake...

Honestly people, we all may have our views on how things should go and opinion are fine, but lets no spoil it all here for al those who entered. The fact of the matter is, did the audiance enjoy the show? Did they chear on a lot of the videos? Was the room full? Those are the sort of things I would like to see discussed.. :wink:

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Gene Starwind 21122 » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:10 pm

Thanks Vlad. I just got back from the con. And I'm kind of disappointed with what was being posted here on the forum.

Let me explain the Best of Show Award. We had this happen one time before at AMA but was told by other staff that in any contest that a person wins "BEST OF SHOW" Then that means the person has the best video and beats all. It would be redudant to say you WIN COMEDY and you're the best video in the contest. It's to make the contest more balanced. The Saturday screening the Pirates of the One Piece had a big reaction.

Also our judging process. We voted on the videos based off of Org., Lyrical Sync, Beat Sync, Flow, Consistance of Story or Theme, Digital Effects, and Lip Sync. Videos in order to qualify have to get a 7.0 out of 10 or higher to be considered for the finals. We then pick the videos that got the highest scores and put them through. We try to balance the categories but if a category doesn't have enough videos that meet the requirements then we add the next highest scoring amv into the category it goes in. As far as videos being in the wrong category. The editors put down what category they wanted their video in. We used our discretion to move videos if we felt it was necessary. Drama and Action sometimes are hard to seperate. You can have an Dramatic Action video. It doesn't always have to be bang-bang shot'em up or big explosions.

I will have the results posted on the first page here by the end of the night. I have a tournament to go to and I'll give you all the official results.

Thank you to everyone who submitted this year. We all really enjoyed your videos. We had about 400 people Friday due to the early showing and 600+ on Saturday in our Second Main Event's Room where it was standing room only for some people. We have a big show and a new category for 2010. So I'll see you guys around.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Adv1sor » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:39 pm

Gratz to all the winners!

I thought it was a very good contest. I enjoyed the AMVs and I liked the little cosplay fun before Friday's showing as well.

I've always been of the opinion that the AMV contest at a con should be for the entertainment of the people at the con. The AMA contests started right on time, ran without a glitch, and showed some very good AMVs.

My sincere thanks to Bryan for putting on another good show. Your hard work and dedication are evident in the AMV contest and the AMV panels you ran.

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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by luggeriano » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:53 pm

The Saturday screening the Pirates of the One Piece had a big reaction.
Well, I find this information in one hand a good thing, and I am also sad, that in my country (Hungary) in the anime community very-very few people knows and rates in its deserved place. Meh, at us, One Piece has somehow no chance against other loooong shounens like Naruto and Bleach. We have total dominance of NAruto and Bleach so you can imagine how much is reflecting this on the contestant AMVs at our contests.

And of course, congratz to every winners !
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Re: Anime Mid Atlantic AMV Contest - FINALIST

Post by Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:17 pm

Well luggeriano, your trailer also got a good response at Anime Evolution (trailers this year had A lot of good entries)... I'd like to add it to my list of video to show in my trailers block for some of the AMV rooms I run next year

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Post by luggeriano » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:38 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Well luggeriano, your trailer also got a good response at Anime Evolution (trailers this year had A lot of good entries)... I'd like to add it to my list of video to show in my trailers block for some of the AMV rooms I run next year

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Sure Vlad, just add it if you want :mrgreen: Btw. today a new trailer parody idea popped out. I will make it during July, when I finished my other new AMVs :)
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