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Re: AMVs and Funimation's Copyright enforcment comments

Post by Castor Troy » Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:25 am

Dark Lord of Debate wrote:Was it being taken down by the automated content filter or by an actual DMCA notice? At least with the content filter, videos are restored instantly after filing a dispute, after which the copyright owner has to file an actual DMCA notice to get it taken down again. After that, if you file a DMCA counter notice, <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... ochsack</a> has to restore the video within two weeks. If the content owner still wants it taken down, their only option at that point is to sue. What step did you get to in the process? You might have still been able to have gotten it restored.
I think it was the content filter.

However, the one video I was talking about, the tube decided to remove the audio, so I deleted it.
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Post by Dark Lord of Debate » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:34 am

Hmm, I think you can still contest that, but oh well.
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Post by Otohiko » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:01 am

Also, let's be fair: before you are sued, chances are the .org will. Individually, you're very unlikely to get targeted before the .org does. There's no guarantee that the .org will or won't, but so far the only threatening thing that actually happened is the cease & desist order from Roadrunner records. The site hasn't been bothered since, as far as I'm aware. There's also no precedent, as far as I know, for any entity being actually taken to court over AMVs. So factually speaking, there's no precedent.

On the other hand, if you want to be paranoid, there's always room for that. You can certainly theorize that someday the .org might get challenged, and there's no guarantee that if challenged, it will actually fight (everyone likes to talk about standing up to the man until their own balls are up to the wall, so to speak). It is conceivable that the .org might lose, in any case, and that information on those who uploaded content here be disclosed on the court's orders. It is likewise conceivable that those who brought the charges in the first place could have a field day with that information.

But I'm not really going to lose any sleep over the risk of that. In any case, if you think you're completely safe doing ANYTHING - really now? Are you? And in this case not only are the risks low and precedent non-existent, but if you don't give in and keep making videos, you're contributing to a growing culture of remix media and, hopefully, adding to the difference that might just gradually lead to the legal changes we need.
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Post by Dark Lord of Debate » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 am

Well said! In truth, most of social media these days is in a big legal gray area, as were most significant technological innovations over the last few hundred years. The history of technological advancement in the US (and probably the rest of the world too) has been one where the technology comes first and the law eventually catches up to it later. We're still between those two things, which in a way is what makes this time so exciting--being on the cutting edge of culture both technologically and legally. That's also a big part of what's motivated me to become a lawyer, so I can play a part in the transition and help ensure the law goes in favor of the innovation made possible by technology and not against it.
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Post by guardiansoulblade » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:40 am

Actually, that was Windup not Roadrunner Records. If that was Roadrunner, all the Nickeback AMVs would be gone.

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Post by S0RA_KH » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:26 am

Okay guys, thank you for all your replies. And they hepled me a bit.
Actually I wasn't THAT kind of paranoid, but my parents were when they saw the thing on my youtube acc. ^_^" It was not the content blocker itself, there was a direct message about FUNImation complaining about my AMV. That's the only reason I got a little scared.
The content blocker didn't really frighten me much, because I know it is automatically. Maybe I got tagged because I wrote HAGAREN insted of FMA, and the guys in japan are more strict as the article said, when I read it correctly. But that's only speculation.
I shall give it a try on here then, I suppose.
Thank you very much for your replies.

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