So.. is this version just a re-encode of the older version for placeholder purposes? None of the changes I requested have been done, and now there's a fade on the Windows 98 clip that simply shouldn't be there. The insta-jump into the Intel logo beautifully simulated the cut-off effect your test patterns did and enhanced it. I acknowledged that it worked far better than I thought it would, and now that it's a commercial, the text at the beginning, which I've tried expressing that it doesn't work in every way besides saying now that it does not work, should be removed. So please please remove that fade and do the other changes, they won't take more than 5 minutes.
Even if you can't switch it out at Otakon, let's at least prep for the distinct possibility that you can, and do some quick but very poignant changes until then.
Please, Deuce, what's going on? Why won't you do the changes?
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Hey...relax, man. Everything will be cool. I'm just getting the download out there so people will stop screaming for it. Your request for changes have been duly noted and will take effect the same time I switch out krvabo's video streams for those mistimed clips. Just breathe, dude... 
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Re: AMV Salad 3: the tour begins at Otakon
Thank you. My frustration was mounting a bit. You realize that that was the first time you acknowledged any of my ideas or requests for a pretty long time? You can understand if it was a bit disconcerting. Since I haven't worked with you before I didn't know how to take the fact that you rarely returned e-mails and seemed to bypass our critiques much of the time, so my apologies, but I also don't believe my reaction was unwarranted considering the lack of communication. I know thanks to AMVS2 that your projects can be pretty epic, I just didn't understand why AMVS3's iterations feel like rough drafts on the cut timing. To be honest I know how much you hate credits, but there are even some things I think that could help if you arranged certain clips next to others, that way you maintain a general tone of comedy instead of ups and downs as the current incarnation seems to have. I'm just used to working with teams and all of us having input, so it was making me nervous that you seemed to be ignoring me. I'm sorry.
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Re: AMV Salad 3: the tour begins at Otakon
lol I didn't actually notice that.9. "Annoying" gained more favorable response and laughs the longer it went on, mainly because Linkin Park kept coming up on the list.
Awww... I thought "I'm on a Boat" would have gotten some reaction. That makes me sad
Oh well. On to the next round of clips to be made.
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Don't fet if yours was a clip that didn't get better reaction. Each convention audience is different. I've been surprised when the clips that were a hit with one con got a mediocre-at-best reaction at the next.
Anyway, the first 'org review from Code:
First of all : The first 2:41 of the AMV made ZERO sense to me. zero. O-o And I like to think of myself as eccentric enough to understand a lot of crazy stuff. O_o
As with all of these videos, many were funny while others were just awful.
Individual Tracks I Liked/Wanted To Comment On:
Haven't we heard the "they're coming to take me away" enough already?
The Now 63 just about made me wet my pants from laughing. LOL.
MAC VS PC was fun.
Kill whoever is holding the phone = Best Death Note one in the project
The adult swim references were really neat. =D
Guitar Hero World Tour was fun. =D
Head On commercials = epic.
Death Note "FUCKING JUMP" was hilarious! =D
Porno Commentary Stand Up Comedy = Hilarious
Beck Family Guy = Best Track in the entire video. I nearly choked from laughing.
I think the Azumanga German part was out of sync. O-o
Power Rangers Excel Saga = Fun.
Men's Warehouse = totally unexpected, was hoping for something funnier with the Fruits Basket set up.
DBZ Opera = Amusing.
And as usual, the credits were ridiculously long. O-o
Overall, I'd say it was the weakest of all the Salads, but still amusing nonetheless.
Yup...got more work to do. Such is the hazard of working on a deadline...
Anyway, the first 'org review from Code:
First of all : The first 2:41 of the AMV made ZERO sense to me. zero. O-o And I like to think of myself as eccentric enough to understand a lot of crazy stuff. O_o
As with all of these videos, many were funny while others were just awful.
Individual Tracks I Liked/Wanted To Comment On:
Haven't we heard the "they're coming to take me away" enough already?
The Now 63 just about made me wet my pants from laughing. LOL.
MAC VS PC was fun.
Kill whoever is holding the phone = Best Death Note one in the project
The adult swim references were really neat. =D
Guitar Hero World Tour was fun. =D
Head On commercials = epic.
Death Note "FUCKING JUMP" was hilarious! =D
Porno Commentary Stand Up Comedy = Hilarious
Beck Family Guy = Best Track in the entire video. I nearly choked from laughing.
I think the Azumanga German part was out of sync. O-o
Power Rangers Excel Saga = Fun.
Men's Warehouse = totally unexpected, was hoping for something funnier with the Fruits Basket set up.
DBZ Opera = Amusing.
And as usual, the credits were ridiculously long. O-o
Overall, I'd say it was the weakest of all the Salads, but still amusing nonetheless.
Yup...got more work to do. Such is the hazard of working on a deadline...
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Re: AMV Salad 3: the tour begins at Otakon
Aaaactually, I didn't find the boat one 'lol' funny because I was bobbin' my head with it since it was so awesome 
The lyrics were lost on me the first time because of the synth-style voice. Second time was when I actually heard the lyrics and realized it was a great choice (even not having seen Gurren Lagann yet). I think you got that head bob effect instead, same with Thundercatlord's Excel one that was put right in front of my DBZ one. When I saw it when it was first put in I was like "Er... deuce might wanna move that, the DBZ one doesn't really deserve a title of 'epic ending' after that Excel awesomeness." Just when you start gettin' into the music it gets cut off and it was MY clip that came up and even I was like 'hey, go back that was cool!" Hehe, I've half a mind to ask thundercatlord to have it removed so he can make it into a full AMV and submit it for the contest next year.
And first thing I do this year is to try and match the rest of you by making a production tag that didn't take an hour on the night everything was due... The Gundam Wing one was meant to be my tag, then at the last minute I realized 'Wha- ah son of a bitch, I just made another clip by accident!'
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Haha, this is why I'd take critique over commentary anyday ^^ 'Expected more from a fruits basket reference' ....liiiiike whaaaat...?? Would totally love to know what that means. ...and I figured people would say that 'they're coming to take me away' is overplayed. It was in both previous ones.
Second Edit:
What do you guys think, would it be too fast if the Fruits Wearhouse clip were to start when she falls against them and they puff into animals? This way there is no initial dialogue to make it as unexpected when Zimmer's voice is the first you hear. Could you guys check if that feels like it sets it up better for you or should we leave it the way it is? Obviously it'll be unexpected, but I think the 'expecting funnier' is because the setup was so long. Anyone agree? Deuce, you saw it at AMA, so you can tell better if the reaction was confused laughter or not.
The lyrics were lost on me the first time because of the synth-style voice. Second time was when I actually heard the lyrics and realized it was a great choice (even not having seen Gurren Lagann yet). I think you got that head bob effect instead, same with Thundercatlord's Excel one that was put right in front of my DBZ one. When I saw it when it was first put in I was like "Er... deuce might wanna move that, the DBZ one doesn't really deserve a title of 'epic ending' after that Excel awesomeness." Just when you start gettin' into the music it gets cut off and it was MY clip that came up and even I was like 'hey, go back that was cool!" Hehe, I've half a mind to ask thundercatlord to have it removed so he can make it into a full AMV and submit it for the contest next year.And first thing I do this year is to try and match the rest of you by making a production tag that didn't take an hour on the night everything was due... The Gundam Wing one was meant to be my tag, then at the last minute I realized 'Wha- ah son of a bitch, I just made another clip by accident!'
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Haha, this is why I'd take critique over commentary anyday ^^ 'Expected more from a fruits basket reference' ....liiiiike whaaaat...?? Would totally love to know what that means. ...and I figured people would say that 'they're coming to take me away' is overplayed. It was in both previous ones.
Second Edit:
What do you guys think, would it be too fast if the Fruits Wearhouse clip were to start when she falls against them and they puff into animals? This way there is no initial dialogue to make it as unexpected when Zimmer's voice is the first you hear. Could you guys check if that feels like it sets it up better for you or should we leave it the way it is? Obviously it'll be unexpected, but I think the 'expecting funnier' is because the setup was so long. Anyone agree? Deuce, you saw it at AMA, so you can tell better if the reaction was confused laughter or not.
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Hey Deuce I had a couple thoughts on Code's comments for potential improvements, please read and let me know what you think:
Instead of the beginning being voiced over you should do the news ticker like I mentioned originally, if anything at all. I don't believe it works currently, because you have one thing on screen, then a random voice-over talking as if you enter mid conversation about something unrelated, which suddenly and inexplicably turns into something about a new show, then the announcement comes in and none of it works together. I believe that's a major part of why Code said he was confused. The reason I suggested the ticker was because it's something everyone knows, an established TV fact that ticker information is separate from what's on screen above it, so you can put whatever you want on it and nobody will be confused. You already have a visual (which I think the green graphic needs a quick redoing) so the ticker gives comedy without uncertainty as to what you're looking at, maybe you could steal Adult Swim's 'up next' screen or something to use somehow?
The Reservoire Dogs clip is more of an amusing commentary on the anime than funny, so the ticker can build the mood with increasingly random humor for those who like that stuff, but they also don't HAVE to read it. I gave some ideas for ticker stuff before, but I have more, and I'm sure whoever on the project still looks at this board will have ideas too ^^ I believe it will be a decent humor builder and be very cheap time-wise to do.
Another issue to look at, I believe, is that there are several zones where the clips don't have a massive punchline, but are more commentary clips like Reservoire Dogs, the Death one, the Lincoln commercial, and my Men's Wearhouse one, and so over those times the audience expects punchy comedy and can be left a bit disoriented or let down. With this in mind, the ones that didn't get a tremendous reaction at AMA could be sandwiched between ones that did, while others like Gunther and, unfortunately 'they're coming to take me away,' get removed this time around. I'm forced to agree with Code, as my initial reaction to that was 'this again...?' and waited for it to finish. When it went on longer than the previous Salads' versions, it was almost a double hit to the mood I'm sorry to say.
I believe looking at this stuff could help in dealing with the issues Code tried to voice. Instead of the Match.com commercial starting things off, switching it with the Death clip could really help a lot I think. If you think about it, you're starting with a commercial instead of something with which to interrupt with commercials, so it's very slightly disorienting. It took me a while to figure out how he may have been confused, but I think this is along the right lines. Another thing is to try and get the credits a bit faster, but I can't think of an effective way just yet. This doesn't need to be over 20 minutes.
Instead of the beginning being voiced over you should do the news ticker like I mentioned originally, if anything at all. I don't believe it works currently, because you have one thing on screen, then a random voice-over talking as if you enter mid conversation about something unrelated, which suddenly and inexplicably turns into something about a new show, then the announcement comes in and none of it works together. I believe that's a major part of why Code said he was confused. The reason I suggested the ticker was because it's something everyone knows, an established TV fact that ticker information is separate from what's on screen above it, so you can put whatever you want on it and nobody will be confused. You already have a visual (which I think the green graphic needs a quick redoing) so the ticker gives comedy without uncertainty as to what you're looking at, maybe you could steal Adult Swim's 'up next' screen or something to use somehow?
The Reservoire Dogs clip is more of an amusing commentary on the anime than funny, so the ticker can build the mood with increasingly random humor for those who like that stuff, but they also don't HAVE to read it. I gave some ideas for ticker stuff before, but I have more, and I'm sure whoever on the project still looks at this board will have ideas too ^^ I believe it will be a decent humor builder and be very cheap time-wise to do.
Another issue to look at, I believe, is that there are several zones where the clips don't have a massive punchline, but are more commentary clips like Reservoire Dogs, the Death one, the Lincoln commercial, and my Men's Wearhouse one, and so over those times the audience expects punchy comedy and can be left a bit disoriented or let down. With this in mind, the ones that didn't get a tremendous reaction at AMA could be sandwiched between ones that did, while others like Gunther and, unfortunately 'they're coming to take me away,' get removed this time around. I'm forced to agree with Code, as my initial reaction to that was 'this again...?' and waited for it to finish. When it went on longer than the previous Salads' versions, it was almost a double hit to the mood I'm sorry to say.
I believe looking at this stuff could help in dealing with the issues Code tried to voice. Instead of the Match.com commercial starting things off, switching it with the Death clip could really help a lot I think. If you think about it, you're starting with a commercial instead of something with which to interrupt with commercials, so it's very slightly disorienting. It took me a while to figure out how he may have been confused, but I think this is along the right lines. Another thing is to try and get the credits a bit faster, but I can't think of an effective way just yet. This doesn't need to be over 20 minutes.
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Allow me to give a more in depth review here over each track. I hope this helps everyone..
00:00-1:05: I have no clue what's going on here.. What is this trying to parody? I think that perhaps if you were to cut this entire segment and starting with the law and order thing would make it a TON better.
1:06-1:28: Excellent work here! =D
1:29-1:51: Why is this match.com? Wouldn't it be better just to make it a funny family guy clip and call it a day? I see no connection between family guy and match.com or the anime.
(Shouldn't there be the rainbow thing between these?)
1:51 - 2:30 - Can we get some prettier fonts on this? Would make it more appealing. Also, the red behind the kung fu panda is really distracting. Can we photoshop or paint.net that out and just have the letters?
2:31 - 2:41 - I'm sure this is an inside joke, but I don't get it.... I know it's trying to parody adult swim, but I have no clue where the pic is from.
2:42 - 3:15 - I think this could be cut in half and have more impact. ABout from the middle to the end...
3:16 - 3:29 - Hilarous, don't change a thing! =D
3:30 - 3:45 - Wasn't really all that funny... But then again, I've never seen the anime.... O-o
3:46 - 4:13 - I'm not sure how it goes from Katamari commercia to pucca to full metal alchemist... There's no tying between then other than just "destroying everything". Best bet would be to either stick with the katamari joke or cut it and pucca and stick with full metal alchemist.
4:14 - 4:43 - Eh. It was cute.. Would have gone for better scenes here and there, but eh..
4:44 - 4:50 - Cute, but there needs to be a clear indicator that you were going to commercial break... O_o
4:51 - 5:28 - Cute, but the premier pro box looked bad.. I'd paint.net or photoshop just the logo. The box looks really tacky...
5:29 - 5:39 - LOVE IT! =D
5:40 - 5:57 - Excellent work on this one. =D
5:58 - 6:13 - WONDERFUL!
6:14-6:19 : EXCELLENT
6:20 - 6:29 - I don't get it... At all. O-o
6:30 - 6:55 for the love of all that is salad, please cut it....
6:56 - 7:11 : excellent work on transferring to commericals.
7:12 - 8:45 I love it. =D
8:46 - : 9:05 Excellent work,
9:06 - : Not funny in all honesty... O-o
9:13 - LOVED IT! =D
9:19 - Eh... It's ok.
9:27 - I don't get it... O-o Definitly too long for sure...
9:55 : Wrong anime choice...
10:04 - Cute, needs more black between it and the commerical logo.
10:08 : good work on the commerical, perhaps some guitar hero footage from gameplay
10:46 : Again, BEAUTIFUL
10:55 - Very cute.
11: 26: Again, excellent, but perhaps put this one elsewhere since you just had a Big O secne
11:42 - Very nice, just like a real adult swim commercial
12:00 - EXCELLENT!
12:25: I dont get... I'm sure those that have seen the anime get it, but I see Haurhi with this one.
12:45: BEAUTIFUL! STICK WITH IT!
13:13 - Cute.
13:18L: LOVE IT!
13:28 - BeSt track in show
13:37: Jsut don't quite like it.
13:40 - Cute, but it's been done....
14:09: Excellent work
14:43: Off sync for sure... O-o
15:15: Excellent work on this! =D
15:47: I love it. =D
16:10 : BEAUTIFUL!
16:21 Cute. But I don't get the first part of it. O_o With the flipping off.
17:10 - Excellent way to end the show
-good grief those credits are LONG. get me a word document or notepad with all the info, the video clips used during them as well as the law and order theme and I'll do them for you and attempt to get them down on time... That is if there's enough time to do it.
Also, I'm definitly going to have to get involved in AMV Salad 4, that's for sure. =D
Hope all that helps. =D
00:00-1:05: I have no clue what's going on here.. What is this trying to parody? I think that perhaps if you were to cut this entire segment and starting with the law and order thing would make it a TON better.
1:06-1:28: Excellent work here! =D
1:29-1:51: Why is this match.com? Wouldn't it be better just to make it a funny family guy clip and call it a day? I see no connection between family guy and match.com or the anime.
(Shouldn't there be the rainbow thing between these?)
1:51 - 2:30 - Can we get some prettier fonts on this? Would make it more appealing. Also, the red behind the kung fu panda is really distracting. Can we photoshop or paint.net that out and just have the letters?
2:31 - 2:41 - I'm sure this is an inside joke, but I don't get it.... I know it's trying to parody adult swim, but I have no clue where the pic is from.
2:42 - 3:15 - I think this could be cut in half and have more impact. ABout from the middle to the end...
3:16 - 3:29 - Hilarous, don't change a thing! =D
3:30 - 3:45 - Wasn't really all that funny... But then again, I've never seen the anime.... O-o
3:46 - 4:13 - I'm not sure how it goes from Katamari commercia to pucca to full metal alchemist... There's no tying between then other than just "destroying everything". Best bet would be to either stick with the katamari joke or cut it and pucca and stick with full metal alchemist.
4:14 - 4:43 - Eh. It was cute.. Would have gone for better scenes here and there, but eh..
4:44 - 4:50 - Cute, but there needs to be a clear indicator that you were going to commercial break... O_o
4:51 - 5:28 - Cute, but the premier pro box looked bad.. I'd paint.net or photoshop just the logo. The box looks really tacky...
5:29 - 5:39 - LOVE IT! =D
5:40 - 5:57 - Excellent work on this one. =D
5:58 - 6:13 - WONDERFUL!
6:14-6:19 : EXCELLENT
6:20 - 6:29 - I don't get it... At all. O-o
6:30 - 6:55 for the love of all that is salad, please cut it....
6:56 - 7:11 : excellent work on transferring to commericals.
7:12 - 8:45 I love it. =D
8:46 - : 9:05 Excellent work,
9:06 - : Not funny in all honesty... O-o
9:13 - LOVED IT! =D
9:19 - Eh... It's ok.
9:27 - I don't get it... O-o Definitly too long for sure...
9:55 : Wrong anime choice...
10:04 - Cute, needs more black between it and the commerical logo.
10:08 : good work on the commerical, perhaps some guitar hero footage from gameplay
10:46 : Again, BEAUTIFUL
10:55 - Very cute.
11: 26: Again, excellent, but perhaps put this one elsewhere since you just had a Big O secne
11:42 - Very nice, just like a real adult swim commercial
12:00 - EXCELLENT!
12:25: I dont get... I'm sure those that have seen the anime get it, but I see Haurhi with this one.
12:45: BEAUTIFUL! STICK WITH IT!
13:13 - Cute.
13:18L: LOVE IT!
13:28 - BeSt track in show
13:37: Jsut don't quite like it.
13:40 - Cute, but it's been done....
14:09: Excellent work
14:43: Off sync for sure... O-o
15:15: Excellent work on this! =D
15:47: I love it. =D
16:10 : BEAUTIFUL!
16:21 Cute. But I don't get the first part of it. O_o With the flipping off.
17:10 - Excellent way to end the show
-good grief those credits are LONG. get me a word document or notepad with all the info, the video clips used during them as well as the law and order theme and I'll do them for you and attempt to get them down on time... That is if there's enough time to do it.
Also, I'm definitly going to have to get involved in AMV Salad 4, that's for sure. =D
Hope all that helps. =D
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9:27 - I don't get it... O-o Definitly too long for sure...
...you're kidding right?
"I'm on a Boat" with footage of "Team Dai Gurren" on a giant boat. It's 30 seconds.
Unless you've never ever heard of "I'm on a Boat" from The Lonely Island, not really sure what's wrong with it.
11: 26: Again, excellent, but perhaps put this one elsewhere since you just had a Big O secne
^This. It's been bugging me for a while. I thought I posted about it, but maybe the post didn't go through.
14:43: Off sync for sure... O-o
^ I agree. It's horrendously out of synch.
...you're kidding right?
"I'm on a Boat" with footage of "Team Dai Gurren" on a giant boat. It's 30 seconds.Unless you've never ever heard of "I'm on a Boat" from The Lonely Island, not really sure what's wrong with it.
11: 26: Again, excellent, but perhaps put this one elsewhere since you just had a Big O secne
^This. It's been bugging me for a while. I thought I posted about it, but maybe the post didn't go through.
14:43: Off sync for sure... O-o
^ I agree. It's horrendously out of synch.
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Yaaay!! Someone likes mine! x3Code wrote:5:58 - 6:13 - WONDERFUL!