Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Kazeatoo » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:42 am

Knowname wrote: I don't know what kind of resources/ or how much Phade would be willing to do for this site! But I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be too happy if he had to move (thus moving the server out of country) to keep the site running, especially considering that might leave him with only 3rd world countries to choose from... not that there's anything wrong with 3rd world countries :o *running water
Cuba could be a good place to move the server 8-) jk
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continues to create ethical standards that address new issues raised by new technologies. Thus all we have left is the will power of the org's community to fights against such. Time will tell........
we could ask permission of TV Tokyo or the Warner Music Group and other labels and or companies to be able to continue editing and doing what we enjoy but then again anime and music industry is growing...there is always a new anime or music that comes out.
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by mirkosp » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:20 am

Kazeatoo wrote:
Knowname wrote: I don't know what kind of resources/ or how much Phade would be willing to do for this site! But I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be too happy if he had to move (thus moving the server out of country) to keep the site running, especially considering that might leave him with only 3rd world countries to choose from... not that there's anything wrong with 3rd world countries :o *running water
Cuba could be a good place to move the server 8-) jk
As computers evolve, computer ethics (set of moral principles that regulate the use of computers)
continues to create ethical standards that address new issues raised by new technologies. Thus all we have left is the will power of the org's community to fights against such. Time will tell........
we could ask permission of TV Tokyo or the Warner Music Group and other labels and or companies to be able to continue editing and doing what we enjoy but then again anime and music industry is growing...there is always a new anime or music that comes out.
Back when the wind up record things happened, phade tried to ask how much would it cost to pay for the royalties and make it work out. It turned out that it was an amount of money so ridiculously big that the org could likely never pay it, due to the amount of videos.
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by dokidoki » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:04 pm

Since copyright's being discussed here, rather than start a new thread I thought I'd mention that text from the proposed ACTA treaty has been leaked.
From boingboing:
The internet chapter of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, a secret copyright treaty whose text Obama's administration refused to disclose due to "national security" concerns, has leaked. It's bad. It says:

* That ISPs have to proactively police copyright on user-contributed material. This means that it will be impossible to run a service like Flickr or YouTube or Blogger, since hiring enough lawyers to ensure that the mountain of material uploaded every second isn't infringing will exceed any hope of profitability.

* That ISPs have to cut off the Internet access of accused copyright infringers or face liability. This means that your entire family could be denied to the internet -- and hence to civic participation, health information, education, communications, and their means of earning a living -- if one member is accused of copyright infringement, without access to a trial or counsel.

* That the whole world must adopt US-style "notice-and-takedown" rules that require ISPs to remove any material that is accused -- again, without evidence or trial -- of infringing copyright. This has proved a disaster in the US and other countries, where it provides an easy means of censoring material, just by accusing it of infringing copyright.

* Mandatory prohibitions on breaking DRM, even if doing so for a lawful purpose (e.g., to make a work available to disabled people; for archival preservation; because you own the copyrighted work that is locked up with DRM)
As an example of point 3: Michael Crook sends bogus DMCA takedown notice to BoingBoing
And an example of point 4: USA, Canada and the EU attempt to kill treaty to protect blind people's access to written material
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Knowname » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:24 pm

that is a matter of national security! :| the president should feel embarrassed lol. (not that his non-cyber space international policies don't make him look enough like a putz). I joke you not :/
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Kazeatoo » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:44 am

Knowname wrote:that is a matter of national security! :| the president should feel embarrassed lol. (not that his non-cyber space international policies don't make him look enough like a putz). I joke you not :/
THE PRESIDENT SHOULD FEEl EMBARRASED LOL!!!!! XD
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Kionon » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:53 am

...delay of the inevitable. Obama is either stupider
than I ever imagined possible or else he is in the pockets of the very lobbyists he says will not control him. Either way, the ACTA is Bad News.
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Otohiko » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:05 pm

And let's not forget people like this guy:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8351331.stm
"There's a doctrine called 'fair use', which we believe to be challenged in the courts and would bar it altogether," Mr Murdoch told the TV channel. "But we'll take that slowly."
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Voices_Of_Ryan » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:33 pm

maybe we'll all just get arrested at some point?
Or not.
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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by CrackTheSky » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:54 pm

If nothing else, incidents like the Wind-Up Records one will just prune the .org of more bad videos.

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Re: Wind-up records? Copyright Infrigement?

Post by Scintilla » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:13 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:If nothing else, incidents like the Wind-Up Records one will just prune the .org of more bad videos.
:evil: :evil:

Can we please not to be throwing out the baby with the bath here? How are those bands any different from the majority of other groups around here, in that 95% of AMVs made to their songs are crap but the other 5% are good and a few are spectacular?
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