Piracy promotes purchasing, especially amongst video editors

[hasteroth]

I remember being told that piracy laws are much more lax in Canada. Even as far as, piracy being legal in Canada. But it sounds like misinformation to me. Anybody who knows what they are talking about care to explain?

[mirkosp]

I remember being told that piracy laws are much more lax in Canada. Even as far as, piracy being legal in Canada. But it sounds like misinformation to me. Anybody who knows what they are talking about care to explain?

If ripping CDs and DVDs, or even downloading them for personal use is allowed, then yeah, I'd say that piracy is legal over there. Not sure if the statement actually works for the country, though, I don't really know anything about canadian's laws...

[Fall_Child42]

ARRRGH! Ye lilly livered land lubber nay know a ting 'bout PIRACY.

Piracy be a war-like act committed by private parties (nay affiliated wi' any government) that engaged in acts o' robbery an'/or criminal violence upon t'seven seas. Th' term can include acts committed in other major bodies o' water or on a shore.

I completely agree the that sweet trade be helpin' th' anime industry. I be havin' purchased countleses magic picture disks usin th' spanish d`bloons I gaind from boardin' them gallions. A swabbieal matey o' min in th' somali sweet trade squadron confirmed they be havin' each purchased a copy o' one piece usin` the'r ill gotten gains!.

Piracy be a thin' o' beauty! So avast me hearties, sail them seas like th' salty dogs ye be, an' stick 't t' them European curs.

[Jasta85]

i don't really see any point in sugar coating it. people download free episodes cause they are up to date, easy to get and FREE (minus the cost of bandwidth). People can try and justify their actions all they want but in the end it's still pirating, hence illegal. It just isnt policed as strictly as most other forms of piracy. Whether people buy DVDs or not after downloading fan subs is irrelevant. It's like saying if someone stole a toy from a store and showed it to all his friends and they thought it was cool and went out to buy the toy as well then that makes stealing the toy ok. no it doesnt.

Granted, i download fansubs all the time, i just don't try and make excuses about it.

[rook2pawn]

i don't really see any point in sugar coating it. people download free episodes cause they are up to date, easy to get and FREE (minus the cost of bandwidth). People can try and justify their actions all they want but in the end it's still pirating, hence illegal. It just isnt policed as strictly as most other forms of piracy. Whether people buy DVDs or not after downloading fan subs is irrelevant. It's like saying if someone stole a toy from a store and showed it to all his friends and they thought it was cool and went out to buy the toy as well then that makes stealing the toy ok. no it doesnt.

Granted, i download fansubs all the time, i just don't try and make excuses about it.

Its not an exscuse because i dont think your analogy holds. stealing a real piece of property versus playing a 80kbs flash encoded video.. its just not the same. The quality of the streaming FLVs like on anime-sub.com is so horrible, it is like
watching stolen cable through binoculars and a hearing aid. In fact, it is because the horrible quality is probably the reason why those kind of sites arent even bothered with by the distribution company. Say we want to talk about a "stolen toy" from a toyshop.. The only way you could "steal" an anime, is to re-broadcast at near or similar quality as the original DVD quality.

If 1,000 people watch an unauthorized anime broadcast, this doesnt mean that there is a 1,000 people's loss of profits.
Thats RIAA logic.

[The Origonal Head Hunter]

Its not an exscuse because i dont think your analogy holds. stealing a real piece of property versus playing a 80kbs flash encoded video.. its just not the same. The quality of the streaming FLVs like on anime-sub.com is so horrible, it is like
watching stolen cable through binoculars and a hearing aid.

You are obviously doing it wrong.

[xPiikanyaa]

Well yeah, I download fansubs sometimes, but in a way it DOES make me want to buy the DVDs, so I can have the English dubbed episodes legally and make AMVs without having to cover up all those nasty subtitles.

[ZephyrStar]

I watch anywhere from 3 to 6 (sometimes more) shows a season. Currently watching 5. That's 5 fansub downloads a week. I have no problem going out and buying something I like. Do it all the time. Still illegal to download the fansubs. It remains the best way to check out new shows, though companies like Funi are making strides at bringing us decent quality free streaming episodes. They at least get where things are going, my guess is paid digital downloads. If I could get a really damn nice DVD quality encode for say, 5$ an episode, I'd do it. Maybe I'm oldschool though, as I prefer a physical collection.

[xPiikanyaa]

Well, I download them first, then if I like, I buy.

[mirkosp]

Well, then there's stuff like crunchyroll... then again CR subs have bad timing and nasty encodes (on size/quality ratio). Translations themselves, I heard they are pretty good though, but I can't really tell that myself... So in the end one sticks to alternative subs, if they exists anyway, since they end up being better than CR's release. Kinda like how I'd feel like getting the R2s for some shows I own on DVD since the PAL encode is terribad. Sadly I can't do that for the one show I'd like to since it seems as if it was released only in VHS in Japan, and it didn't get enough attention, apparently.