Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I always put in credits mainly to give credit the sources that were used. Hence why my credits are mostly just text, hardly anything fancy.
But yes, a lot of people just skip over them anyway.
But yes, a lot of people just skip over them anyway.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I prefer myself to watch a video and not have to be shown the credits right away. I wanna turn the video on and get the video. So I personally prefer to put the credits at the end, after the video finishes.
Though I have on occasion been fancy and hid the credits in the video itself.
Generally though, I find it could be lazyness. I mean, I usually make a video without credits and then send it to cons. I have to then create the credits and re-render and re-encode the video to then submit it online. That's a lot of extra work. And by the time I do it, I could be sick and tired of the video, ect.... So it could be that even.
Though I have on occasion been fancy and hid the credits in the video itself.
Generally though, I find it could be lazyness. I mean, I usually make a video without credits and then send it to cons. I have to then create the credits and re-render and re-encode the video to then submit it online. That's a lot of extra work. And by the time I do it, I could be sick and tired of the video, ect.... So it could be that even.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I actually do put credits, but as you noted, people still remove them and say that it's theirs. At first I was shocked, but now I view it as a badge of honor or 'truly making it.' Someone was willing to do something so stupid for e-fame? lawlz I guess I could put something in the corner like Aluminum Studios or someone used to do, but A) I'm lazy and B) I doubt it'd really hinder anyone.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I would assume that a lot of people feel whatever information they'd put in the credits is already blatantly obvious. Why bother stating an InuYasha AMV is using [insert current top 20 hit song] when anyone who's going to watch the AMV knows darn well what anime and song was used, as well as who made it b/c - surprise! - it's on their UToob channel or under their account name here. If you look at it this way, credits are not only redundant, they're kind of silly.
I also don't think a lot of people view their videos in a way which reflects long-term planning (or, perhaps more appropriately, a view of AMVing as anything but a passing source of amusement). This stuff, generally speaking, has an extremely short shelf-life. You make it, you release it...and pretty soon - with a few exceptions, and even then the clock is ticking - it's all swept away in the massive tsunami that is the creation and release of millions of other videos on the Web. Is it really going to matter a year later whether your name is embedded inside a video? Five years later?? Probably not, and chances are pretty good the video itself isn't going to matter all that much to you or anyone else, either. So, why bother with credits if they're not going to mean anything to anyone anyways down the road?
For the record, I add credits to my videos b/c I have fun with them, in most cases more fun than I had with the AMVs.
I also don't think a lot of people view their videos in a way which reflects long-term planning (or, perhaps more appropriately, a view of AMVing as anything but a passing source of amusement). This stuff, generally speaking, has an extremely short shelf-life. You make it, you release it...and pretty soon - with a few exceptions, and even then the clock is ticking - it's all swept away in the massive tsunami that is the creation and release of millions of other videos on the Web. Is it really going to matter a year later whether your name is embedded inside a video? Five years later?? Probably not, and chances are pretty good the video itself isn't going to matter all that much to you or anyone else, either. So, why bother with credits if they're not going to mean anything to anyone anyways down the road?
For the record, I add credits to my videos b/c I have fun with them, in most cases more fun than I had with the AMVs.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I do a splash screen at the beginning, changing it every year, so that way when I look at the thumbnails of all my videos I can tell what year I made them without having to look at the video info (I rarely remember this crap off hand)... however it's usually a silent 4-5 second still image.
I'm not a huge fan of mini-amvs for their "studio logo" at the beginning. Those usually ruin the mood of their videos, not to mention when someone downloads a video that's credited with Full Metal Alchemist, and they have an opening using Junjou Romantica or something - it will throw off the viewer and they'll go "Wait! I thought this was FMA! what is this yaoi crap?"
I usually put the actual credits at the end, because I feel that the sources should be credited, since they are not my own.. also it gives me valid reason to ignore the people who ask me the sources on other sites that don't have our fancy cataloging system.
As for the argument of people who try to take credit for making an amv, I know adding credits doesn't really "hinder" them, but I don't do credits to try to hinder them. I do it for the people who who might want that info without having to search the web for it.
If I were really worried about "amv thieves" I'd watermark (which still won't stop them either - but at least makes it easier to recognize your clips if they don't crop) - but since I hate watermarks, I'd rather just let the people take the video/clips... The people who really matter know I made the video, and that's what matters to me.
I'm not a huge fan of mini-amvs for their "studio logo" at the beginning. Those usually ruin the mood of their videos, not to mention when someone downloads a video that's credited with Full Metal Alchemist, and they have an opening using Junjou Romantica or something - it will throw off the viewer and they'll go "Wait! I thought this was FMA! what is this yaoi crap?"
I usually put the actual credits at the end, because I feel that the sources should be credited, since they are not my own.. also it gives me valid reason to ignore the people who ask me the sources on other sites that don't have our fancy cataloging system.
As for the argument of people who try to take credit for making an amv, I know adding credits doesn't really "hinder" them, but I don't do credits to try to hinder them. I do it for the people who who might want that info without having to search the web for it.
If I were really worried about "amv thieves" I'd watermark (which still won't stop them either - but at least makes it easier to recognize your clips if they don't crop) - but since I hate watermarks, I'd rather just let the people take the video/clips... The people who really matter know I made the video, and that's what matters to me.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
To answer the question in the original post, I feel like a lot of editors don't put credits in their AMVs because they want the AMV to stand by themselves. You know, a lot like Led Zeppelin IV. Or maybe it's just laziness.
I find that credits are extremely useful as part of the AMV itself, especially during the intro parts of the song that are rather slow. Credits are a great excuse to fill in those gaps where a random scene is simply not satisfactory. And plus, it gives the viewer info about the AMV -- killing two birds with one stone! Every time I watch EasyAction of [hagaren] by Pianos, I'm just so impressed by how he was able to fit the credits in to the middle of the AMV and still have it flow so nicely.
I've never had a problem with stolen AMVs because either I haven't found one yet, or because no one has stolen one. I try to integrate the credits in to the AMV itself so that it takes more than just a simple WMM edit to take out the credits.
I find that credits are extremely useful as part of the AMV itself, especially during the intro parts of the song that are rather slow. Credits are a great excuse to fill in those gaps where a random scene is simply not satisfactory. And plus, it gives the viewer info about the AMV -- killing two birds with one stone! Every time I watch EasyAction of [hagaren] by Pianos, I'm just so impressed by how he was able to fit the credits in to the middle of the AMV and still have it flow so nicely.
I've never had a problem with stolen AMVs because either I haven't found one yet, or because no one has stolen one. I try to integrate the credits in to the AMV itself so that it takes more than just a simple WMM edit to take out the credits.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I put credits in my videos.... Well, because everybody else does, excluding a few people.
Honestly? i don't like them. in fact many times videos with abbhorently long credits, I cut them off in Virtualdub so I can enjoy them better. I just did that with Hagaren Viper's "this is halloween" AMV, and I always do it with Yashiro's AMV's. Because, honestly, I like to loop videos, and hearing 10-15 second long credits at the end/beginning is fucking annoying.
Actually, I'm just pretty much gonna stop adding credits. Because they're really not all that important. In con situations, I can see bumpers being necessary for judging/audience purposes, but on the internet and for personal viewing? Nah. dun need em.
Honestly? i don't like them. in fact many times videos with abbhorently long credits, I cut them off in Virtualdub so I can enjoy them better. I just did that with Hagaren Viper's "this is halloween" AMV, and I always do it with Yashiro's AMV's. Because, honestly, I like to loop videos, and hearing 10-15 second long credits at the end/beginning is fucking annoying.
Actually, I'm just pretty much gonna stop adding credits. Because they're really not all that important. In con situations, I can see bumpers being necessary for judging/audience purposes, but on the internet and for personal viewing? Nah. dun need em.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
Practically the same than this. While I did put credits in my first videos, then I stopped doing so for a reason that would be somehow similar to the one above. I just said "what for?". If it's for reference and to show it is yours, it can be removed by others. If it's a watermark, it will bother in the video, and it can even be removed (who would bother anyway?). I never cared too much about my 'copyright' over the video.qyll wrote:To answer the question in the original post, I feel like a lot of editors don't put credits in their AMVs because they want the AMV to stand by themselves.
Before started editing I watched so many AMV's with credits that they looked like something an AMV needed; that sounds pretty dumb, mine basically sucked and made my video even worse. It's a general fact to copy what you see.Code wrote:I put credits in my videos.... Well, because everybody else does, excluding a few people.
Anyway, funny or interesting credits are pretty good though they are generally hard to do and to match in with the AMV itself.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
I have to agree---it's the same reason I don't do them. I find them jarring to myself on my own videos, so I tend to avoid them.Otohiko wrote:I do mood videos. Credits spoil the mood. I also have a no-frills approach to serious videos and I've no particular passion for asserting my creative credo.
The only times I do credits is when it's entertaining for me to do so.
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Re: Editors who put no credits: Explain yourselves!
(I didn't read the thread, so I'm assuming this has been said already, but anyway...)
Well, they downloaded my video, so I would assume they know who made it.... why would credits be needed?
Well, they downloaded my video, so I would assume they know who made it.... why would credits be needed?