Where is our world going?

[Kionon]

Admittedly it's not the content I have issue with. It's the way the content is controlled. I still want to listen to the music, watch the movies, and use the anime for amvs. I just don't like funding an obsolete marketing strategy.

[Enigma]

And for Christmas news
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/i ... al_lawsuit

Isohunt goes down in court :/ score one for the lobbyists.

[trythil]

I'm honestly about ready to stop buying content of any kind. No more cds, no more dvds, no more movie tickets, I may even limit myself solely to public domain ebooks and creative commons material and use the sources I have already purchased.

I'm this close to done with mainstream media providers.

Please don't conflate copyright restrictions with payment incentive; the concepts are independent.

(This thread has gone way off-topic but I'm going to use the tangent as a soapbox.)

Exchanging money for copies of works isn't something limited to works distributed under the default "all rights reserved" restriction set. There are people who will sell you a copy of a public domain work (see, for example, some of the work in the Penguin Classics line) or even Creative Commons music (Magnatune) and video art (any of the three films the Blender Foundation has done). There are many other examples out there besides the ones I named; you can use Google to find more.

In fact, I'd hope that you choose to pay money for copies of stuff that you could, legally, get for zero price. I don't agree with the copyright restrictions and hardware/software invaders that Big Media pushes for, but I do think that I agree with a variant on what they say: that artists should be rewarded if you like what they do. As such I buy copies of Magnatune albums, things like the Blender Foundation project DVDs, and donate to free software projects I like.

[Kionon]

Oh, I didn't confuse them, but I wasn't clear.

I should have said that I am no longer willing to buy restricted content.

[verlocs]

Please don't conflate copyright restrictions with payment incentive; the concepts are independent.

(This thread has gone way off-topic but I'm going to use the tangent as a soapbox.)

Exchanging money for copies of works isn't something limited to works distributed under the default "all rights reserved" restriction set. There are people who will sell you a copy of a public domain work (see, for example, some of the work in the Penguin Classics line) or even Creative Commons music (Magnatune) and video art (any of the three films the Blender Foundation has done). There are many other examples out there besides the ones I named; you can use Google to find more.

In fact, I'd hope that you choose to pay money for copies of stuff that you could, legally, get for zero price. I don't agree with the copyright restrictions and hardware/software invaders that Big Media pushes for, but I do think that I agree with a variant on what they say: that artists should be rewarded if you like what they do. As such I buy copies of Magnatune albums, things like the Blender Foundation project DVDs, and donate to free software projects I like.

The margin cost of delivering a copy of an existent piece of digital data is negligible. Because the margin cost is effectively zero, market forces will eventually compel the media industries to give the data itself away because there's nothing to keep a floor on prices. The data *can* be delivered free to the masses by anyone who has it, so there is nothing but the threat of retribution to keep people interested in legitimate avenues of acquisition.

That's what makes digital information an underground market like none other. In any other black market, there is scarcity. Ammunition and weapons, narcotics, spirits, vehicles, etc... all involve the exchange of physically scarce commodities and inevitably results in an inflated price over the legitimate market value of the commodity being obtained (assuming a legitimate market exists). This is not the case in media. The commodity has absolutely no scarcity as long as someone has it and is willing to disseminate it. This makes any effort on the part of the copyright holders to maintain their artificial scarcity futile, so they should quit now and try to find other means of capitalizing on their intellectual property beyond simply maintaining the status quo of a scarcity driven distribution model that no longer works.

[luggeriano]

It will also separate the 'Pros' from the 'newbs,' but still allow the newbs to hang around a developed community. One thing about the Tube is that newbs can stay hidden from the pros. Just like how people who dont announce their videos here can stay hidden from the 'pros' of the main community. They have their video uploaded, but chances are, the only people that are going to watch them are the people that search for them.

Just a personal reaction to this part because has some concern regarding me. The overall trolling and bitching as a daily based habit here experienced in the Forum threads and in the Announcement topic n my early times made me to make the decision to not announce anything because 1. don't need useless trolling which has not building effect at all 2. just enlarging the one-post-long orphan threads where nobody will comment anything to the author....so probably this attitude can easily shut down the enthusiast newbie editors. Like me, they will only lurking the ( I don't say that simply reading the conversations, technical help threads do not improve and tutor you, it does !) topics but will never be really active. And yes based on this background as ORG trends are nowadays, LOCAL videos will be uploaded there as they are, and will be only revealed if somebody might accidentally find them by searching something.

Another thing is, that inactivity in the Ann. or forum topics does not mean always numbness in other fields, like contests. Several inactive member can be quite active in the case of contests, MEPs, or be active (organizing cons, ICs, contests, tutoring newbies etc.) in local regional circles so measuring everything to ORG standards would be a little inequal and tricky IMHO.