?????DarkPhoenix22 wrote:Usually subbed. Dubbed episodes are damn hard to find on the internet.guardiansoulblade wrote:There are plenty of editors who just download illegal anime, be it subbed or dubbed and edit with that.
I've never seen it before. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places...Sukunai wrote:?????DarkPhoenix22 wrote:Usually subbed. Dubbed episodes are damn hard to find on the internet.guardiansoulblade wrote:There are plenty of editors who just download illegal anime, be it subbed or dubbed and edit with that.
I guess you've just never seen all the fully downloadable dvd format anime that IS really out there then. And there is a shitload of it out there. The only reason to not bother with dvd format, is it's not always really necessary.
usenet and other newsgroups aren't exactly an easy place for your average stupid internet user - that's why they're still allowed to exist (though they have been cutting off newsgroup access in a lot of areas under the guise of fighting CP). Darknets and private communities are the way to go for most things, but public trackers don't seem to be in danger (or dangerous) for fansub gatherers - yet at least. Who knows though... the business model is failing - maybe they'll take up the solution of their big content brethren and start suing their customers too.Sukunai wrote:?????DarkPhoenix22 wrote:Usually subbed. Dubbed episodes are damn hard to find on the internet.guardiansoulblade wrote:There are plenty of editors who just download illegal anime, be it subbed or dubbed and edit with that.
I guess you've just never seen all the fully downloadable dvd format anime that IS really out there then. And there is a shitload of it out there. The only reason to not bother with dvd format, is it's not always really necessary.
You has a good point there. I use downloading as a 'try before you buy' thing, but I'll admit I have edited with fansubs in the past.Angelyco wrote:I agree that piracy promotes purchasing in some cases. I would never buy the DVDs for a show if I hadn't watched it because they just cost way too much to take chances on if I'll like it or not. If it wasn't for piracy, I would NEVER buy anime DVDs unless it was something that aired on TV in the US or something. Unfortunately there is no other way for us to watch Japanese shows right now.
Plus, there are just some shows that will never make it to the US and R2 imports are of no use to me if I can't understand what they're saying...fansubs become necessary at that point. I wouldn't buy the R2s for editing unless I was able to watch the show beforehand.
I'm perfectly aware that downloading is illegal and I would never argue against that. At this point in time, there just aren't many other options.
these ppl make a living as well and you should contribute to that when you can (again, depending on availability, can't really say anything if you dish out the 120 bucks for 1 anime series but pirate the other 3 just because you can't afford them or they aren't available to you yet). If your a wealthy American with everything available to you for a fraction other countries pay (if it is available to them in the first place) then... I'd have to encourage you to buy your anime. Your proceeds may go to bringing good anime to more countries. Or it may just go to making Vic Magnolia fatter 
but w/e he needs food too.