PAYMVs!

[mirkosp]

Nira: that statement is true for the US, but in Italy there's no such thing as fair use, or at least, what could be considered fair use is much more limited and restricted, so it doesn't really help AMVing at all.
So basically, depending on the country, a tax that would ensure you to be 100% legal could be welcome. At least, I know it'd make me feel more secure rather than worrying about things like "well, technically it could be ok, but if they wanted they could sue me..." just 'cause the law doesn't help.

[Bauzi]

Okay and how expenssive should the tax be?

-Single anime, single song
-multiple anime, single song
-multiple anime, multiple songs a.k.a. MEP

[8bit_samurai]

I would be against implementing some kinda tax on AMVs and other remix hobbies.

However, if they do implement something, I don't think it would be a tax, but something like a privatized DJ license or something like that. I'd think it'd work best if it went something like the actual Privatized DJ license (or whatever ya wanna call it) is free (however, if you get one you'd have to get like a public domain stamp or something similar, which would cost the minimal price which may be like $0.44 or something), but you'd have to buy stamps from either artists, record labels, film producers, license distributors, etc. and each would be able to set their price of a stamp (if they own one) to a minimal amount or maximum amount. The actual license itself would probably expire just like how long a regular driver's license/State ID card would expire, but those who distributed the stamp could set their own expiration ranging from a year to however long the license would expire. I think that would work best, but even so, I wouldn't get one and just retire from editing.

[Knowname]

Seriously ppl will buy anything on ebay nowadays. If they totally legalized it and it was actually viable to sell my amvs on Ebay I'd totally do it. I mean you got WoW accounts going for thousands of dollars how freeking much do you think ppl would pay for Euphoria? Or Animeigo or whatever licensing company is left. *One more reason to kidnap Koop* Making stuff legal can be useful beyond just making one feel safe. It'd at least allow a lot of us to put amvs as legally accredited vouchers on our applications. Now it's little more than a footnote. I mean just look at the remixing community (ocremix) I still don't know how they got onto last.fm (this the dj license thing?).

It'd probly make the VCA's a LOT more interesting too... I mean if we had a legal TV broadcast we could have an actual location for them and celeb appearances (I mean it IS their music...) I'm getting ahead of myself but that would be HELLA' funny *_*. This site in itself would change like a whole ton.

Some would quit though, inevitably, as the landscape would change from a decently easy to get into hobby into something you can make a living off of. Again ahead of myself, I doubt I'd EVER make a living off this stuff, but...

Yeah, lots more to this than just some ppl feeling safe. Though, I didn't know Italians had no legal protection whatsoever o.0 that's too bad... Lots of entrepreneur ventures start as hobbies.

Can't see it happening though

[mirkosp]

Actually, I was very much seeing it as 8bit is. I mean, some sort of "you pay a set amount once and you're good for a long while" and not based on every source you use. So perhaps license is a more appropriate name rather than tax, but yeah, that's what I was thinking it could be. Perhaps not to the extent of seeling amvs, but clearly being able of feeling secure would be nice, plus it'd basically remove the Evanescence issue, for example.

[Knowname]

I aint given up no money unless their's reimburstment involved. This is a capitalistic society we live in... I live in :/

No but seriously that's whack. Why would you be willing to pay for shit if you still can't sell or market it? Priorities

[James Sharp]

Maybe instead of a tax you should be required to post a bumper at either the end or begining of your amv.

Citing that you got your material from x album and x song and x anime and give a detailed citing of how you got all that material with a final message at the end.. something like this.

"I _____ did not create nor wish to sell or profit off the music and video used in this amv in any way shape or form. This amv has been a creative expression and exists strictly as such.
If you enjoyed any part of this amv i strongly recommend you purchase The source song and anime.

Anime:________
Studio:________
Song:_________
Album:_______



so ya you would kinda have a super detailed disclaimer or things and encourage people to buy the music and video from the amv you made.. that way it really shows that its a benifit to the companies trying to make money..

[James Sharp]

On a side note anyone who would stop us from doing this is pretty stupid.

I cannot count how many albums i have purchased STRICTLY because they have 1 song i thought would be great for an amv..

Or how many anime boxsets i have purchased JUST because i saw a music video and decided to give the anime a try....

For example... i first saw one piece on cartoon network and almost vomited.... i then saw the "sail on" music video (i think that is what it was called) and BLAM i was instantly hooked...

so the amv maker that made the sail on video was FAR better at selling the anime of one piece.. than a fuggin tv network that airs the lameass english dub...

so ya..

[Enigma]

On a side note anyone who would stop us from doing this is pretty stupid.

I cannot count how many albums i have purchased STRICTLY because they have 1 song i thought would be great for an amv..

Or how many anime boxsets i have purchased JUST because i saw a music video and decided to give the anime a try....

For example... i first saw one piece on cartoon network and almost vomited.... i then saw the "sail on" music video (i think that is what it was called) and BLAM i was instantly hooked...

so the amv maker that made the sail on video was FAR better at selling the anime of one piece.. than a fuggin tv network that airs the lameass english dub...

so ya..

Sounds to me like you were watching the 4Kids Dub

[marthwmaster]

2. It's minimal compared to the real threat of p2p and one click hosters.

A minimal issue is still an issue. Personally, I'd be much happier if money went to the people who wrote the music I care enough about to make AMVs with.