If I Only
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- CodeZTM
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Re: If I Only
On the whole, it was pretty well done. There's just a few aspects that really just kind of threw it off.
1) Visual quality. Yes, I absolutely HATE making this petty complaint, but I really think that a crisper visual quality and the removal of that gradient throughout the middle area of the video would have made it more visually appealing to watch.
2) Text at 2:20. It looked really out of place and distracted us from the vision of the two's promise to one and other, which distracted me from the overall video and was a break from the video's flow.
3) Fading. You know, I'll be at the head of the crossfading fan club, but this was overkill on so many different realms. I could forgive it on the first 30 or so seconds, because I honestly think it was a good way THERE to kind of introduce us to the fact that the guy's life is slowly fading away into nothingness. But after that, there really wasn't a real reason for them. Crossfading into each scene, or heck the beat calls for hard cuts, and would have kept the video's flow in tact. AS it was, it's like the viewer has to take breaks from the video every 5 or so seconds. And for those with ADD, it's gonna make it hard to be fully enjoyed.
4) Repeated scenes. The scene at 2:10 was from earlier in the AMV. Not that repeated scenes are a MUST NOT DO in AMV's, this manner it wasn't utilized in a proper manner.
5) Speed reduction/accelerations. I noticed a few of them, which my usual thought on that is "if you can obviously tell it was spedup/sloweddown you shouldn't use it except in extreme subtlety.
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That being said. You did a lot of things right too.
1) Concept: Conceptually, the video was VERY strong. A new take on a very emotionally powerfully anime? Yes please! The video was thick with the story, and told it in a very compelling and interesting way.
2) Scene selection: Overall, you did a fairly good job in this department. The chosen scenes evoked emotion in me, so I can pretty much say it was sucessful.
You know, I know my complaints were a LOT more than my positives, but I really see a lot of potential. It's pretty awesome. Just a few minor things needs some tewaking, and you'll go far.
3.50/5.00
1) Visual quality. Yes, I absolutely HATE making this petty complaint, but I really think that a crisper visual quality and the removal of that gradient throughout the middle area of the video would have made it more visually appealing to watch.
2) Text at 2:20. It looked really out of place and distracted us from the vision of the two's promise to one and other, which distracted me from the overall video and was a break from the video's flow.
3) Fading. You know, I'll be at the head of the crossfading fan club, but this was overkill on so many different realms. I could forgive it on the first 30 or so seconds, because I honestly think it was a good way THERE to kind of introduce us to the fact that the guy's life is slowly fading away into nothingness. But after that, there really wasn't a real reason for them. Crossfading into each scene, or heck the beat calls for hard cuts, and would have kept the video's flow in tact. AS it was, it's like the viewer has to take breaks from the video every 5 or so seconds. And for those with ADD, it's gonna make it hard to be fully enjoyed.
4) Repeated scenes. The scene at 2:10 was from earlier in the AMV. Not that repeated scenes are a MUST NOT DO in AMV's, this manner it wasn't utilized in a proper manner.
5) Speed reduction/accelerations. I noticed a few of them, which my usual thought on that is "if you can obviously tell it was spedup/sloweddown you shouldn't use it except in extreme subtlety.
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That being said. You did a lot of things right too.
1) Concept: Conceptually, the video was VERY strong. A new take on a very emotionally powerfully anime? Yes please! The video was thick with the story, and told it in a very compelling and interesting way.
2) Scene selection: Overall, you did a fairly good job in this department. The chosen scenes evoked emotion in me, so I can pretty much say it was sucessful.
You know, I know my complaints were a LOT more than my positives, but I really see a lot of potential. It's pretty awesome. Just a few minor things needs some tewaking, and you'll go far.
3.50/5.00
- James Sharp
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Re: If I Only
Code wrote:On the whole, it was pretty well done. There's just a few aspects that really just kind of threw it off.
1) Visual quality. Yes, I absolutely HATE making this petty complaint, but I really think that a crisper visual quality and the removal of that gradient throughout the middle area of the video would have made it more visually appealing to watch.
2) Text at 2:20. It looked really out of place and distracted us from the vision of the two's promise to one and other, which distracted me from the overall video and was a break from the video's flow.
3) Fading. You know, I'll be at the head of the crossfading fan club, but this was overkill on so many different realms. I could forgive it on the first 30 or so seconds, because I honestly think it was a good way THERE to kind of introduce us to the fact that the guy's life is slowly fading away into nothingness. But after that, there really wasn't a real reason for them. Crossfading into each scene, or heck the beat calls for hard cuts, and would have kept the video's flow in tact. AS it was, it's like the viewer has to take breaks from the video every 5 or so seconds. And for those with ADD, it's gonna make it hard to be fully enjoyed.
4) Repeated scenes. The scene at 2:10 was from earlier in the AMV. Not that repeated scenes are a MUST NOT DO in AMV's, this manner it wasn't utilized in a proper manner.
5) Speed reduction/accelerations. I noticed a few of them, which my usual thought on that is "if you can obviously tell it was spedup/sloweddown you shouldn't use it except in extreme subtlety.
_____________
That being said. You did a lot of things right too.
1) Concept: Conceptually, the video was VERY strong. A new take on a very emotionally powerfully anime? Yes please! The video was thick with the story, and told it in a very compelling and interesting way.
2) Scene selection: Overall, you did a fairly good job in this department. The chosen scenes evoked emotion in me, so I can pretty much say it was sucessful.
You know, I know my complaints were a LOT more than my positives, but I really see a lot of potential. It's pretty awesome. Just a few minor things needs some tewaking, and you'll go far.
3.50/5.00
Thanks for the video opp. Sorry it took so long to respond. i have been busy.
Ya that white gradient was placed for a representation of the past. it was cheaply done and really did not go over to well. However at the time it was the only way i could figure to separate the two time periods i was trying to represent.
I also really need to work on my fading and learn other methods of transitioning between clips.
The whole repeated scenes thing im not sure about because i dont think i repeated any scenes. There are many up-close shots of her face and i figure i used two similar ones. I will have to work on that in the future.
I defiantly have alot of work and learning to do before i can make any real progress as an editor. thank you for your opinion
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I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
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http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
- Knowname
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Re: If I Only
Personally, I'm a fan of lip flap. just gotta say that :p after reading Eva-Fan's suggestions, love alternate methods. But don't think you always need to do ANYTHING with lip flap. You know how in many 'memories' they have the person saying something but you don't know what their saying, it doesn't bother you cuz you know what their saying... I mean it is a memory. So, personally, if it's a memory scene (and portrayed well AS a memory scene... and it sounds like that part might be lacking here but... oh well *_* we can't all be perfect), I'd rather go with the lip flap rather than it just looking awkward. Also if your 'feigning' lip flap like this, make sure the lips are maybe possibly readable. Don't have the lips going at a million miles a second (I once went over Codes beta with this ).
But generally I've always been a MEGA proponent for alternate methods, all of what Eva-Fan said should be considered .
I probly got like this cuz I'm really old and pondered just what Gendo was saying just before he shot that one bitch in NGE. Yeah that'd be it.
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K after watching I don't see how anybody can be so critical . But w/e. Don't like the transition and following scene at 2:59. Crossfades leave residue and if the next scene doesn't properly blend in the residue will be very apparent- try non-additive disolve or find the gradient filter . <--- just figured since everybody else was bitchin' might as well.
But the lip flap stuff was well displayed here! I liked it! don't change a thing!
But generally I've always been a MEGA proponent for alternate methods, all of what Eva-Fan said should be considered .
I probly got like this cuz I'm really old and pondered just what Gendo was saying just before he shot that one bitch in NGE. Yeah that'd be it.
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K after watching I don't see how anybody can be so critical . But w/e. Don't like the transition and following scene at 2:59. Crossfades leave residue and if the next scene doesn't properly blend in the residue will be very apparent- try non-additive disolve or find the gradient filter . <--- just figured since everybody else was bitchin' might as well.
But the lip flap stuff was well displayed here! I liked it! don't change a thing!
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- James Sharp
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Re: If I Only
Ya i defiantly have to admit. I received a ton more negative than positive (not so much in this thread but overall qc and opinions are really negative). I expected alot of criticism. but it really is starting to overwhelm me at how terribly I have done this video. It hurts even more-so because I put so much heart into the actual love story i was trying to tell. and yet the only responses i am getting are complaints over quality and my general lack of skill.
Its really taken the wind out of my sails. Even though i saw it coming i just had no idea how bad the criticism truly would be.
I know i need to improve and all but i was kinda hoping someone would actually say that the video made them think. Or made them sad. Or even cry. Lol anything to keep my thoughts off of how incredibly bad the video was.
Well i guess all i can take from this epic failure of a project is that i need to improve massively before i can even think about stepping foot here. Looks like i got my work cut out for me.
Its really taken the wind out of my sails. Even though i saw it coming i just had no idea how bad the criticism truly would be.
I know i need to improve and all but i was kinda hoping someone would actually say that the video made them think. Or made them sad. Or even cry. Lol anything to keep my thoughts off of how incredibly bad the video was.
Well i guess all i can take from this epic failure of a project is that i need to improve massively before i can even think about stepping foot here. Looks like i got my work cut out for me.
Close calls are always the most exciting. Coming close is always the most dissapointing.
My newest vid:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
My newest vid:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
- EvaFan
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Re: If I Only
Welcome to the org, we don't try to enjoy amvs here. We just analyze them and tell you where you've screwed up. I hope I didn't come off as mostly negative in my first post though. Most of it was just offering suggestions for your future amvs since that's what you wanted. Usually I just post that I enjoyed it or didn't and why with some extra info as needed and sometimes my reactions.James Sharp wrote:Ya i defiantly have to admit. I received a ton more negative than positive (not so much in this thread but overall qc and opinions are really negative). I expected alot of criticism. but it really is starting to overwhelm me at how terribly I have done this video. It hurts even more-so because I put so much heart into the actual love story i was trying to tell. and yet the only responses i am getting are complaints over quality and my general lack of skill.
Its really taken the wind out of my sails. Even though i saw it coming i just had no idea how bad the criticism truly would be.
I know i need to improve and all but i was kinda hoping someone would actually say that the video made them think. Or made them sad. Or even cry. Lol anything to keep my thoughts off of how incredibly bad the video was.
Well i guess all i can take from this epic failure of a project is that i need to improve massively before i can even think about stepping foot here. Looks like i got my work cut out for me.
Remember though QCs and opinions are usually where people let their egos/bitter side get to them most cause its more secluded from the public. Opinions are where people become analytical cause that’s what the opinions are for most. This is where they can tell you the negative things that they thought about (and the positive hopefully). Doesn't mean you have to take them all as truth, this is where you decide what to take and what to ignore. It's an opinion.
Judging from your vid and the way you act, you’re a very emotional person. All I can say is this place will chew your type up and spit you out if you can't take much crit. Suck it up a bit and just become a better editor out of it. You don't just jump into something and expect to make something brilliant within the first few tries (though this is a pretty good amv IMO for a beginner). Look at most peoples first vids and you will find out that most people started off in the same boat, my first vid is an embarrassment but I can honestly say now that I have definitely become a better editor by viewing that one then my latest ones. In the future you can do the same.
Part of this is not your fault though. There has just been a decline in vids with story/concept/xyz factor in them. Sync to a beat and quality are the prime aspects around here right now for some reason unless you execute an original idea well.
All I can say is, this community is not all that bad as a whole. Yes there are alot of people here that are more serious when it comes to amvs then others (and they have every right to be if they care about the hobby that much), but there are some here who can appreciate an amv for what it is and try to enjoy it than what it could have been (the analysts). Don't let negative comments overwhelm you. If your getting more negative comments then positive ones that just means you've got more room/ways to improve but that doesn't mean you should give up creating what you want to create. Keep this vid and make some more, then look back at that first vid and you may find yourself understanding those people who made all those negative comments more easily. Some people learn better by example. Watch some other great amvs and see what they did differently. You may find some inspiration and editing techniques you wouldn't have thought of before. Most of those people would even tell you how they did it if you asked.
If all you want is positive comments then I'd suggest youtube before this place, quite honestly.
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- James Sharp
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Re: If I Only
Naw i love it here.
While i agree i am a passionate person. And it is really a shame that no one actually liked my video. I look forward to the challenge of showing everyone here how i will improve.
I said in an earlier post that i am really starting to enjoy the production process. and i meant it.
Besides i have always been competitive and put my all into what i do. Failure is a part of that. we just have to pick ourselves up and move on.
I dont want anything to do with youtube. that would be such a meaningless set of opinions. the people here are hardened by years of experience. if i can impress you guys. then i know im the best.
i would rather take a million bad opinions from here than ten million good ones from youtube. its like the wallmart of self expression.
While i agree i am a passionate person. And it is really a shame that no one actually liked my video. I look forward to the challenge of showing everyone here how i will improve.
I said in an earlier post that i am really starting to enjoy the production process. and i meant it.
Besides i have always been competitive and put my all into what i do. Failure is a part of that. we just have to pick ourselves up and move on.
I dont want anything to do with youtube. that would be such a meaningless set of opinions. the people here are hardened by years of experience. if i can impress you guys. then i know im the best.
i would rather take a million bad opinions from here than ten million good ones from youtube. its like the wallmart of self expression.
Close calls are always the most exciting. Coming close is always the most dissapointing.
My newest vid:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
My newest vid:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/v ... =3&t=98816
I welcome any and all advice on how i can improve
- Nya-chan Production
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Re: If I Only
/watched preview for Kiminozo
Be prepared, this might seem harsh, so to ease it up a little: I liked it and I gave it 4 stars out of 5 ;x
Quality: It had some real letdowns, mainly on borders (they kept narrowing and widening, which disturbed me) and in what EvaFan pointed out. It's a common mistake, happened to me once in an IC, although nobody noticed, so I was lucky >.>
You'll get it the next time.
As for fades, I was probably only bothered because it was discussed in this thread and I paid more attention to them. I'd say they matched the song pretty nicely and that's what matters.
The lyrics of the promise (you know, the one about the star) were too briefly on the screen for anyone to read them. Also didn't much like the font (but that might just be me) - it's default Windows font, for such shiny thing you want to look up some free font and use it. There are lots of free fonts on net. (Also lots of DBZ on Kazaa, but that's another vid.) The movement of the text was weird too, in such a static scene. It worked for the text after credits (which was a very known quote, still sweet, though), but not here.
The most problem I had with was the storytelling - you just threw in TBHG (The Blue Haired Girl, forgot name, I like Haruka more) in the start, so it seems you wanted to say "He chose TBHG, then he went to Haruka". But this switch was too abrupt, it even seems that he's cheating on TBHG with Haruka to me (O.o). Otherwise it was really sweet and nice and all, but this part just really threw me off. Also the part with the ring - somebody gets the ring, in the next scene we see Haruka without it (so it probably wasn't her - did he just return to TBHG all of sudden? Why?) and then ambulance right away? Did she just commit a suicide? D: It's all kinda unclear.
So, chaotic, bad on the side of quality, but still very nice job on the first vid. I'd like to see this remastered/remade, TBH :>
(yes, I do suck for Kiminozo)
Be prepared, this might seem harsh, so to ease it up a little: I liked it and I gave it 4 stars out of 5 ;x
Quality: It had some real letdowns, mainly on borders (they kept narrowing and widening, which disturbed me) and in what EvaFan pointed out. It's a common mistake, happened to me once in an IC, although nobody noticed, so I was lucky >.>
You'll get it the next time.
As for fades, I was probably only bothered because it was discussed in this thread and I paid more attention to them. I'd say they matched the song pretty nicely and that's what matters.
The lyrics of the promise (you know, the one about the star) were too briefly on the screen for anyone to read them. Also didn't much like the font (but that might just be me) - it's default Windows font, for such shiny thing you want to look up some free font and use it. There are lots of free fonts on net. (Also lots of DBZ on Kazaa, but that's another vid.) The movement of the text was weird too, in such a static scene. It worked for the text after credits (which was a very known quote, still sweet, though), but not here.
The most problem I had with was the storytelling - you just threw in TBHG (The Blue Haired Girl, forgot name, I like Haruka more) in the start, so it seems you wanted to say "He chose TBHG, then he went to Haruka". But this switch was too abrupt, it even seems that he's cheating on TBHG with Haruka to me (O.o). Otherwise it was really sweet and nice and all, but this part just really threw me off. Also the part with the ring - somebody gets the ring, in the next scene we see Haruka without it (so it probably wasn't her - did he just return to TBHG all of sudden? Why?) and then ambulance right away? Did she just commit a suicide? D: It's all kinda unclear.
So, chaotic, bad on the side of quality, but still very nice job on the first vid. I'd like to see this remastered/remade, TBH :>
(yes, I do suck for Kiminozo)
- EvaFan
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Re: If I Only
Well I don't remember reading people specifically saying they liked it but they did say they enjoyed it and some said it was good. They definitely didn't hate it. Think you're trying to drag yourself down too much. The only amv failure is the amv you give up on finishing. This here is a success .James Sharp wrote:And it is really a shame that no one actually liked my video.
Failure is a part of that.
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- Knowname
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Re: If I Only
^^what eva fan said. this is your 4th video and I've released 40, these guys either hit you hard, or not at all lol must not have announced those other videos, but it especially hurts when you try really hard on your video, but trust me. That effort goes a LONG way. So buck up and just enjoy the experience.
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