The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Post by Honou_Miko » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:01 pm

alchemist4 wrote:I wonder if anyone submitted a video over 6 minutes...I could picture AMVs spanning 10-12 minutes to a variety of music. Some shows have so much depth to them its like they almost deserve a good lengthy video haha
Mine was ten. *shifty eyes* Had a video I worked my ass off on and nowhere to use it to compete, until I saw that... so I had to take advantage before they decide no time limit may be a bad idea.


...Are there still going to be multiple showings? Like, last year there was one on Friday and another on Saturday, correct? I'm sorry if I misread or missed anything, I had a long day at work. But there is a very good chance I won't be able to make the Saturday showing (church called me to sing a wedding the ONE weekend I told them I'd prefer not to; oh well, it's $200...) So if the only showing will be Saturday, I'm screwed. Even if I don't make the finals with my selfishly long-ass video I wouldn't want to miss the contest. It's such a highlight...
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Castor Troy » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:05 am

Otakon's not turning into AX now, is it? :x :x :x :cry:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by CodeZTM » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:19 am

Castor Troy wrote:Otakon's not turning into AX now, is it? :x :x :x :cry:
QUICKLY! EVERYBODY START MAKING "CONSTRUCTIVE" COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION! :ying:

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by moonbunnychan » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:34 am

Man that sucks. I guess somebody didn't get the memo that the AMV contest is like...one of the biggest crowd drawing events. Even the overflow usually has a pretty decent amount of people in it.
All sad news indeed.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by TnAdct1 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:59 am

One thing worth asking: I wonder if there's a chance that programming may fix things in order to accommodate the AMV contest if enough people write to the staff about their concerns about the contest? After all, Otakon is meant to geared towards the fans (and if fans are afraid that the AMV contest will be treated poorly, they should inform the con of their concerns now while there's still time).

BTW, is the screening in Main Events on Friday or Saturday? I originally was thinking that the screening currently with problems will be taking place on Friday until I remembered that there's a concert on Friday (meaning that it may take place in Video Room 1 on Friday night while the concert is going on).

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by dwchang » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:21 am

Castor Troy wrote:Otakon's not turning into AX now, is it? :x :x :x :cry:
It will the first year you or any of those west coasters attend so don't attend j/k ;)
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Post by outlawed » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:19 am

VicBond007 wrote:Main Events is one of the halls in the BCC. The 1st Mariner Arena is being used exclusively for the masquerade, while the rest of us have to juggle schedules and make compromises. A/V will be out of sync because we'd be putting our video scaler behind their video scaler, adding a big delay. This doesn't happen in Video 1 because we have a direct line to the projector
I'm surprised they let you hook up your own equipment in main events. I know AWA has to make a DVD of the contest when they have a showing in main events. At least they did when I went in 2007. Of course that could be more about logistics than limitations set by main events. What about mastering a DVD of the finalists? Or is the usage of main events room more than just a plug and chug of the contest finalists. I'm honestly curious since I've never had a chance to attend Otakon and see how you guys do things.

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by Adv1sor » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:57 am

Sorry to hear about how poorly they are treating the AMV contest at Otakon.

Why don't you just master the contest to a DVD, fixing any color issues at this end, and run it straight in to the projector and sound system without a front end scaler?

I know the video quality would suffer a little but it would be better than an A/V delay.

Hope they work things out for the best.

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by VicBond007 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:37 am

As it looks right now, there is both a screening of the main contest on Friday and Saturday.

Otakon is turning into AX as far as I can see. Fan produced content takes a back seat to industry/egos. When the simplest changes are shot down because the video department doesn't want "their guy" to "go from one end of the convention center to the other" and this is considered a legitimate reason for denying my requests, as far as I'm concerned there's little hope for this current administration.

I can't give out Otakorp contact information since that's private, but Meredith Davey is the head of programming. This either is public knowledge already, or will be once the program guide is published along with the staff list for this year. The Otakon website also has a contact form with a division for "Programming". "AMV Contest" goes right to me, so don't waste your time, I already know your concerns ;)

I don't actually have the OK to hook anything up in Main Events yet. It's entirely possible that I have to burn DVDs, which means recompressing everyone's videos again, and opens your submissions up to theft/copying by shifty staffers/gophers. When your content is on the server, the power button is physically locked with a key. Alan and I are the only people who can access it. Plus, DVDs at Otakon have problems like this:
http://animealmanac.com/2009/07/19/otak ... in-tweets/
Scroll down to "Eva fail!" Sadly this happens every year and we can't do anything about it because we're forced by contract to use DSL as our tech company. They know that they can't be replaced no matter how bad they do. My solution for AMVs, which worked relatively well last year, was to have them install a mechanical switch between DSL's equipment and ours. Good thing, if it wasn't for our equipment, the Eva movie would have been cancelled outright.

You can't correct videos "ahead of time" for a projector that you don't have access to. You're correcting for the room, not the content. This is why when you go to a con with 2 screens in one room, one is more blue, and one is more red. Whatever contractor hangs the equipment just plugs the same settings in for both devices, and doesn't take into account the variations between each device. Every bulb, LCD screen, lens, and screen are slightly different, even if the part numbers match.

This would be real easy if I didn't care, but I do. Anyone who takes the time to generate content for my event, TRUSTS me to put on a good show for them. I believe that any event that takes submissions from fans, and takes money from fans, should do their best to support the fans endeavors.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

Post by alchemist4 » Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:48 am

That is crap. The AMV contest has been one of the most popular events that I've seen in action at Otakon so I can't believe they'd treat it so crappy. I'd say its only second to the Masq in terms of popularity and crowd size (from my point of view of course and I don't count the dealers room lol). Disappointing from what is supposed to be the "premier" anime convention on the East Coast

Would they do the awards during the break at the Masq? I notice a lot of AMV awards from other cons during that time

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