Avisynth code for telecining ?

[norlane]

Have dvd that is pal Interlaced, 25 fps, 720 * 576.Not that this matters.
I want to use some parts of this dvd.
I used DGIndex to create .d2V file.
I want to know if there is an Avisynth code i can use
to show telecining eg Hard Telecining. I beleve i saw a code before that shows
results A and B's in different orders indicating telcened or progressive rather
than relying on the results of DGIndex, which some have said is Unreliable.
Thankx.
PS. hve not been at this long and any reference links appreciated.

[mirkosp]

If it's PAL chances are it's full field interlaced, either with blending or by speedup. Yes, there are some slim chances that it underwent euro telecine, whether soft or hard, but only a few good companies actually do that, so again I wouldn't put my hopes on that.

[norlane]

Is there an AviSynth script i can run in AvsP to read the file an tell this ?

[Mister Hatt]

Please be clearer in what you're asking. Also age old advice for dealing with PAL sources as quoted from the developer of the greatest telecine program ever written:

Locate trashcan.
Place dvd in trashcan.
Order R2j counterpart.

[norlane]

Sorry, ok like i have an Avisynth Script below for looking at frames of encoded froject.
I am looking for an Avisynth script for showing if project is progressive or telcene parts.
I beleve there is a script that showes a series of A and B numbers in the task bar of AvsP .
The order of these numbers would indicate Telecining or not,
Sorry about mentioning PAL .

FFVideoSource("path\to\your\muxed\file.mkv")
Spline36Resize(ConvertToRGB,ffsar>1?round(width*ffsar):width,ffsar<1?round(height/ffsar):height)

Telecined for NTSC video, it will be
Frame 1: A1A2
Frame 2: A1B2 (interlaced with top from Frame 1, bottom from source Frame 2)
Frame 3: B1C2 (interlaced with top from source Frame 2, bottom from source Frame 3)
Frame 4: C1C2
Frame 5: D1D2

Soft telecining looks like this:

Frame 1: A1A2 (Top, Bottom, Repeat Top)
Frame 2: B2B1 (Bottom, Top)
Frame 3: C2C1 (Bottom, Top, Repeat Bottom)
Frame 4: D1D2 (Top, Bottom)

Inversing the Telecine Process

Frame 1: A1A2
Frame 2: A1B2
Frame 3: B1C2
Frame 4: C1C2
Frame 5: D1D2

[Zarxrax]

PAL typically isn't really telecined, it's just kinda all blended together into a mush. So it's unlikely to be very fixable really. Which anime is it?

[norlane]

I used DGIndex.exe to derive these results. So the result saying Interlaced may not be 100 % correct being PAL.
And what do people think of this APP and is there a better way to make an Index for Avisynth from a DVD.

Stream Type: MPEG2 Program
Profile: main@main
Frame Size: 720x576
Display Size: [not specified]
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 [3]
Frame Rate: 25.000000 fps
Video Type: PAL
Frame Type: Interlaced
Coding Type: P
Colorimetry: BT.470-2 B,G*
Frame Structure: Frame
Field Order:
Coded Number: 131745
Playback Number: 2
Frame Repeats: 0
Field Repeats: 0
VOB ID: 1
Cell ID: 12
Bitrate:
Bitrate (Avg):
Bitrate (Max):
Audio Stream: 80: AC3 3/2 448
Timestamp: 1:27:49
Elapsed: 0:01:40
Remain: FINISH
FPS:
Info:

[mirkosp]

To index DVDs I get suggested DVD2AVI a lot, especially timecop's build: http://pbx.mine.nu/dvd2avi/
That build is able to use (a good chunk of) .ts, too.
It is apparently faster than dgindex, not sure how they compare in reliability. Either way I personally consider dgindex a mighty fine choice regardless, so feel free to make your pick.

As for your source, those info make me think of a full field blended PAL or a speed-upped and interlaced PAL.

[norlane]

thankx for help will read more of the guide http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... index.html

[Mister Hatt]

Your footage is what is commonly referred to as "PAS" rather than PAL. It means "Piece of Australian Shit" and describes the terrible process of getting anime into PAL format as performed by Madman Entertainment. It is impossible to fix and if you want your video to look good you are required to get the Japanese R2 DVD instead. IVTC doesn't work on PAL sources like yours and there is no way to fix it at all, or even make it look passably good. Get a refund or use it as an expensive novelty drink coaster.