Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

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Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:19 pm

So, I ended up getting the entire box set of Soul Eater and i'm not sure if i need new glasses or if they managed to fit 6-7 episodes onto each DVD without any real need to filter the results. Anyone with better eyes than me that has the source think anything needs to be done to it? I'm honestly shocked and i'm questioning my eyes.
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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by mirkosp » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:30 pm

If they did soft telecine (progressive virtually flagged as telecined), then 6/7 eps per DVD9 without extras might not be impossible to look decent at least. But do show pngs of some scenes, specially the most action-y ones with lots of motion ongoing (especially if there are lots of unique frames).
EDIT: Talked with Bashar on IRC and it looks that he had forced film back when he indexed the d2vs and just forgot. I guess that makes sense too. :P
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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:54 pm

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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by Mister Hatt » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:12 pm

>doesn't need filtering
>covered in halos
>either my monitor sucks (highly likely, netbook lol) or there is some cool luma ghosting going on
>aliasing and a small case of the jaggies

Other than that, the detail is a bit washed out due to overquantizing and smoothing, but at least it doesn't appear blocky. The R2j DVDs had a fair bit of heavy quantizing on them as well, I've got all of them besides for vol1 and noticed this as well. The discs are DVD9 for a change so more episodes on them is somewhat understandable too.

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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:51 pm

I actually couldn't see the halos until mirko pointed them out to me on #AMV (and zoomed in to 150%). I also haven't had my prescription changed on my glasses in 2 years now, so I kinda see the world a bit more blurry than normal. I ended up doing some de-haloing and mild sharpening. Running all 8 DVDs through that now. Previews looked marginally better.
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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by Cannonaire » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:56 am

I'm seeing a little haloing, but it's much more mild than what I've been fixing (LOL Trigun + Cagliostro). At least in Soul Eater the halos seem to match the color pretty closely instead of being bright/white. I'm really no expert, but would this mean there's less of a chroma problem than I'm used to and a fixing only the luma should help? KiTo got Soul Eater recently, so I'm sure I'll be working with it soon enough. In all honesty, this looks a lot better than most sources I've worked with and I'd probably be content leaving it unfiltered (but still IVTC, obviously).
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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by Mister Hatt » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:43 am

I don't see why it needs sharpening, especially with aliasing, that's make it WORSE. I'd say start with some light dehaloing, tweaked very carefully ofc, then running EE() on the luma only. Throw a gradfunkmirror on for good measure (it's very smooth so chances are it'll band up a bit) and that'd probably clear up the minor ghosting. I don't think it needs anything other than that. Just be really careful with that dehalo.

Worst ghosting I have ever seen is the Kowarekake no Orgel DVD. It needed scene-by-scene tweaking due to the different levels of haloing as well as a fair amount of ringing. I still haven't finished my filterchain for it D:

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Re: Soul Eater filtering - or lack thereof

Post by TheRyuu » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:03 pm

Mister Hatt wrote:then running EE() on the luma only.
EE() has always merged back the source chroma.

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