The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by Ileia » Tue May 15, 2012 6:21 pm

CodeZTM wrote:I think what you said about making videos for the fandom is a really great thing that editors should do from time to time. I'll openly admit that I'm more about the concept of the video rather than the actual anime, and that's just generally how I like working on most videos. The one time I did edit for fun/fandom (my DRRR! video), it was a blast and I loved doing it. It's not something I want to do ALL the time, but it is indeed a fun thing to do. :)
Just because you don't love the anime doesn't mean it's not fun to edit. I'm on the extreme side since I rarely edit with anime I've seen, let alone anime that I like (which are few and far between, really), but that's just what I enjoy. That doesn't make it sad or mean that I take it too seriously, it's just a difference in values. Both views are completely valid, I'm not about to knock someone who makes videos because they love a show, I just may not necessarily appreciate that aspect. (And, like in Chiikaboom's case, the opposite is true.) But, anyway, my point is that I may see anime as stock footage of sorts, but that doesn't mean I'm all omg-super-srs-amvs-are-art-deep-meaning-concept-videos-only, it's possible to be on this end of the AMV spectrum and still have fun*. :up:


*I spend most of my editing time having giggle fits, actually. :lol:
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by CodeZTM » Tue May 15, 2012 6:38 pm

Ileia wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:I think what you said about making videos for the fandom is a really great thing that editors should do from time to time. I'll openly admit that I'm more about the concept of the video rather than the actual anime, and that's just generally how I like working on most videos. The one time I did edit for fun/fandom (my DRRR! video), it was a blast and I loved doing it. It's not something I want to do ALL the time, but it is indeed a fun thing to do. :)
Just because you don't love the anime doesn't mean it's not fun to edit. I'm on the extreme side since I rarely edit with anime I've seen, let alone anime that I like (which are few and far between, really), but that's just what I enjoy. That doesn't make it sad or mean that I take it too seriously, it's just a difference in values. Both views are completely valid, I'm not about to knock someone who makes videos because they love a show, I just may not necessarily appreciate that aspect. (And, like in Chiikaboom's case, the opposite is true.) But, anyway, my point is that I may see anime as stock footage of sorts, but that doesn't mean I'm all omg-super-srs-amvs-are-art-deep-meaning-concept-videos-only, it's possible to be on this end of the AMV spectrum and still have fun*. :up:


*I spend most of my editing time having giggle fits, actually. :lol:
Oh no, that wasn't what I intended to mean that it's "sad" or anything to use anime as stock footage or edit in a certain fashion.

I just meant that it's an enjoyable experience for myself to try a different approach at editing from time to time (which is why I like changing the genres I edit with frequently). This certainly isn't a universal truth, since people derive enjoyment from AMVs in a lot of different ways.

Typically I edit videos for a concept and focus solely on executing that concept. To me, that's fun. My favorite thing about AMVs is telling a story or relating an experience to the viewers. Usually this means not focusing on the anime/music, and focusing more on getting the story across. In my personal opinion, it's just nice to let my hair down from time to time and just edit fan-related stuff without a concept and focus on my love of the anime. I've made plenty of AMVs that I've not liked the anime with and still had a lot of fun with (Betwixt & Between 2, for example. I personally still haven't watched past the first 3 episodes in the series, because I don't care for it, but setting up that AMV was more fun than you can imagine).

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by Ileia » Tue May 15, 2012 6:39 pm

Sorry, I was kinda responding to your post and previous ones, I probably should've just quoted more specifically.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by TritioAFB » Tue May 15, 2012 6:47 pm

That's kinda ironic because there are several animes I watched in the past but until now I haven't edit them yet, and instead anime I haven't finished but there's already 1 video made.

And about the interview...

There were some facts I was curious about, glad that through the reads my guesses are gone
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by AimoAio » Tue May 15, 2012 7:06 pm

CodeZTM wrote: Q: How come you don't upload your AMVs on a-m-v.org anymore? As somebody that wants a full copy of a lot of your YouTube AMVs (GAH. Make It Rock), this saddens me greatly. :(

Because the org isn't my audience, lol. If you want a copy of any of my videos, just drop me a message! I'll try to remember and then probably forget to get back to you asap with download links.
I would so love a download for this too, it's my favourite AMV of yours and I love collecting Reborn AMVs. :ying:

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by Shin-AMV » Tue May 15, 2012 7:13 pm

Ileia wrote:
CodeZTM wrote:I think what you said about making videos for the fandom is a really great thing that editors should do from time to time. I'll openly admit that I'm more about the concept of the video rather than the actual anime, and that's just generally how I like working on most videos. The one time I did edit for fun/fandom (my DRRR! video), it was a blast and I loved doing it. It's not something I want to do ALL the time, but it is indeed a fun thing to do. :)
Just because you don't love the anime doesn't mean it's not fun to edit. I'm on the extreme side since I rarely edit with anime I've seen, let alone anime that I like (which are few and far between, really), but that's just what I enjoy. That doesn't make it sad or mean that I take it too seriously, it's just a difference in values. Both views are completely valid, I'm not about to knock someone who makes videos because they love a show, I just may not necessarily appreciate that aspect. (And, like in Chiikaboom's case, the opposite is true.) But, anyway, my point is that I may see anime as stock footage of sorts, but that doesn't mean I'm all omg-super-srs-amvs-are-art-deep-meaning-concept-videos-only, it's possible to be on this end of the AMV spectrum and still have fun*. :up:


*I spend most of my editing time having giggle fits, actually. :lol:
I'm kinda 50/50, I've done edits where I haven't seen the anime at all, hate the anime, etc, and I've worked with stuff I get all giddy about (madoka, nichijou, etc <3)

I don't have a strong opinion either way whether or not AMVs are art or not, I can see artistic merits in some AMVs and appreciate the depth that some have, but at the same time it gets annoying when it becomes like you're at an art gallery and deconstructing how the color palletes come together to create specific moods or whatever and all the enjoyment is lost :/ Its kinda like saying you can't enjoy comic books cause they don't have redeeming literary value or something. I don't care I just wanna see Hulk smash and Virginia Wolfe is boring, you know? If Virginia Wolfe smashed though, that'd be something. :dino:

I've never been much for narratives either, and thats probably the one thing that people complain most to me about D: At the end of the day I really just like throwing cool looking and purdy clips on the track and hitting render cause its fun |:> Kinda rambling I guess, but sometimes people forget that all this is really just for funsies sometimes.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by Fall_Child42 » Tue May 15, 2012 7:21 pm

Of course AMVs are art.

The problem is when people attach an idea of, sacredness to the word 'art' and treat it as if it's this beautiful untouchable thing that only certain people can create.
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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by lloyd9988 » Tue May 15, 2012 7:34 pm

irriadin wrote:Next week's interview should certainly provide a compelling contrast with this week's :o
Hmm. . .
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Ileia wrote:Just because you don't love the anime doesn't mean it's not fun to edit. I'm on the extreme side since I rarely edit with anime I've seen, let alone anime that I like (which are few and far between, really), but that's just what I enjoy. That doesn't make it sad or mean that I take it too seriously, it's just a difference in values. Both views are completely valid, I'm not about to knock someone who makes videos because they love a show, I just may not necessarily appreciate that aspect. (And, like in Chiikaboom's case, the opposite is true.) But, anyway, my point is that I may see anime as stock footage of sorts, but that doesn't mean I'm all omg-super-srs-amvs-are-art-deep-meaning-concept-videos-only, it's possible to be on this end of the AMV spectrum and still have fun*. :up:


*I spend most of my editing time having giggle fits, actually. :lol:
This person or some artistic person whom everyone is gaga over their videos because they have such artistic fandom to them :awesome:

Anyway, I never really watched or liked chiikaboom vids except Fluffy Kittens and Rainbows but I do love that she makes her videos for herself and her fans. ^_^ Yey for Yu Yu Hakusho!! :D fyi, I luv your formspring, most of your answers always seem to make me laugh :rofl:

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by irriadin » Tue May 15, 2012 7:38 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:Of course AMVs are art.

The problem is when people attach an idea of, sacredness to the word 'art' and treat it as if it's this beautiful untouchable thing that only certain people can create.
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Some people hear the word "art" and instantly think of like, a Monet painting in a museum. It doesn't have to be that way!

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Re: The Lip Flapper : Volume 19 - Chiikaboom

Post by BasharOfTheAges » Tue May 15, 2012 7:54 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:Of course AMVs are art.

The problem is when people attach an idea of, sacredness to the word 'art' and treat it as if it's this beautiful untouchable thing that only certain people can create.
case in point - dada. Or "found art" or any other form of modern art. Pretty much destroyed any meaning the word may have had. It can and should be used to describe anything and everything. It's about as descriptive as pointing at something and going "that's a thing."
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