The Lip Flapper: Volume 28 - GloryQuestor (Site Redesign)

[inthesto]

. While about 70% of what's talked about is absolutely okay and would be beneficial to be observed publicly, there's still some stuff discussed in admin meetings (legal and site ownership issues, security issues, directives from the freemasons and illumanati) that needs to remain private.

The fuck?

Last I checked, the Org was not a sovereign nation that had matters of national security. Do we have some kind of intelligence agency that spies on AMVNews.RU or something? Is Otohiko going to show up dead in a gutter if identities are revealed?

[Otohiko]

By security issues I actually meant things involving access to admin tools, site code, and other under-the-hood stuff.
If you don't want your site hacked, it's probably a good idea to not discuss these things in public.

[Fall_Child42]

By security issues I actually meant things involving access to admin tools, site code, and other under-the-hood stuff.
If you don't want your site hacked, it's probably a good idea to not discuss these things in public.

When was the last time admin tools/site code was discussed in such detail as hackers could use this information?
Are you explicitly typing out steps for breaking into the web site?

Could you not just say "hey guys we have found a few code issues that have to be addressed, I'll PM you the details later."?
At least that way we could still see what exactly was going on.

[Shin-AMV]

By security issues I actually meant things involving access to admin tools, site code, and other under-the-hood stuff.
If you don't want your site hacked, it's probably a good idea to not discuss these things in public.

Well... If things are as hard-coded and impossibly difficult to change and tinker with for people that have access to it on a regular basis I dunno how much you need to worry about hackers making things more inconvienent.

On a serious note though, it'd be nice to have the town hall style discussion where topics that can be made public are public.

[Rendakor]

Well technically, there is a public place to talk about the redesign 24/7. It's called #grommet on IRC, you guys should hang out there more.

I think a "town hall" meeting is an excellent idea. The general meetings is something that's hard to have in public though. While about 70% of what's talked about is absolutely okay and would be beneficial to be observed publicly, there's still some stuff discussed in admin meetings (legal and site ownership issues, security issues, directives from the freemasons and illumanati) that needs to remain private. Given how difficult it can be to get all of the mods/admins together, it's just better to hold this stuff privately when the opportunity presents itself.

BUT I'm all in favour of scheduling a public meeting if others like the idea.

Just have the first half of the meeting private (in #seekretadminchannel) and handle the private side of things, then hop into a public but moderated channel for the rest of it. If you wanted to allow some public Q&A, designate someone to PM questions to and have that person bounce (some of) the questions off the rest of the staff.

[JaddziaDax]

It's interesting to see what you have to say on the redesign. I suppose I was one of those left in the dark because I thought nothing was happening.

Then to go to the thread and check it out and see a lot of "why are you doing this?" only to be responded with "if you don't like it code it yourself" -_- Also I guess I'd been out of the loop for so long I didn't even know who this "i fight for the users" was.. good to have that cleared up as well.

Still, I'd like to give some input but I feel like it's just going to be shot down in the end.

[irriadin]

I think it would be useful to be able to sit in on meetings. The ones not dealing with "security issues" of course

[I Fight For The Users]

Then to go to the thread and check it out and see a lot of "why are you doing this?" only to be responded with "if you don't like it code it yourself" -_- Also I guess I'd been out of the loop for so long I didn't even know who this "i fight for the users" was.. good to have that cleared up as well.

There's a lot more in that thread than me telling Sanya-nya and Bashar



.

There are some things that I am indeed unwilling to compromise on. In those cases it is indeed a case of



Many other things, though, are open for discussion, and evoke more of a



See the issues list for details.

[CodeZTM]

I'm not one to take sides, but I must admit, IFFTU has made a very open dialog with me regarding the opinion system in the Issues part of the website. It's not EXACTLY what I wanted, but the compromise (assuming it goes into production) is more than i could have hoped for, and I think I like the alternative better than what I originally suggested.

[JaddziaDax]

It sure as hell feels as though you are gonna ignore everyone on that thread anyway... whatever.