legalizing weed: What are your thoughts?

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Post by Mroni » Sat Dec 28, 2002 5:21 pm

Alucard_FoN wrote:How exactly does someone smoking pot affect you? Unless they are blowing the smoke directly into your face, I don't see how they are doing anything that even remotly affects your life.
Ok it creates a bunch of high retards running around stealing to get more money to smoke pot which destroys alot more brain cells than beer by the way. The stench of marijuana can be smelled in the radius of a whole block it is repugnant.

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Post by Akiraatje » Sat Dec 28, 2002 6:57 pm

i havent read the whole tread,but there is one thing i wanna say

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Post by Aetherfukz » Sat Dec 28, 2002 8:27 pm

Whoa, one day not on the board, and I have to read thru 4 pages... but well worth.

I'm 100 percent and then some for the legalization of Marijuana, or however you like to call it. The point is, nicotin and ethanol is legal, but THC isnt. And it is not as harmful as alcohol, and doesn't make addicted (later --> )like alcohol and cigarettes. And for the driving. Yes I think it should be treated like alcohol, but you may drink 1 or 2 beers (depending) and drive, so you should be allowed to roll a spliff, or just to drive after a few hours or so.

OK, to the addiction thing. It is widely proven that MJ doesn't make addicted. Not physical. But, yes, you can get addicted to it psychically. But that's with everything. Making AMVs, watching TV, eating, sleeping, EVERYTHING. And you see people addicted to everthing from time to time...

And on page 1 or so I've read a question about why it is not legal. Well, as stated sooner in this thread, it was mainly because the cotton industry was aware that Hemp would be a worthy opponent for cotton. Cheaper, easy to grow, resistent, and much more...

As always, just my 2 cent... -_-'

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Post by TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:09 pm

I brought this up ealier in my post why weed isnt legal, and this thread is just proving it. Has much has you would think otherwise, there are a lot of people out there who dont want it legal because they think its bad and dont really know what there talking about. Even people in this thread who are for it being legal are still showing some ignorance has to what it actually is.

Ok, listen, I have smoked pot, and ive done a lot of research into it, studying from various sources, so I know what im talking about. Weed, by itself, is pretty much completely harmless. It does not kill braincells, and its intoxicating effects dont even come close to those of alchohol. I know this for sure because I have been both really high, and really drunk. Being really high I still could still think pretty clearly. Clearly enough not to do anything stupid atleast. When I was really drunk...well I dont want to talk about it, but lets just say my ability to tell the difference between "what is smart" and "what is a really retarded thing to do" wasnt quite working that well. Although, I still would reccomend driving high, a recent study to show how weed impares driving ability, only ended up showing people who were high drove better(remember, the test was out to prove the opposite) Still though, dont drive stoned.

Also, after a half a century of research and studies, no long term side effects have been discovered. Studies have showen that over periods of heavy use(3 joints a day) that people tend to become dummer, or slowever. However, shortly after use is stopped, the person returns to how they were before. And I completely beleive this because I have witnessed it for myself countless times. Also, most of the stupid stoner type people, the were stupid before they smoked weed, or are also doing something else besides weed. I know a lot of stupid people who smoke sometimes, and I know some damn near genius people who smoke a lot. I think that should say something.

Also, contrary to what someone said above, weed is NOT physically addicting. Any addiction is mental, and for most people its not that bad. For example, when you quit smoking, you have to quit, forever. You cant go back to smoking once a week. If you do, youll just end up starting again. With weed though, I know lots of people who used to smoke a lot, but now keep it down to like once a month without difficulty. Are there people couldnt do that? Yeah, but there are people who can become addicted to anything. Its the person not the drug. You cant revolve laws around the lowest common denomitator, or no one will have any freedom.

Finally, I just want say that im not trying to convince anyone to smoke pot here. Its your choice, or atleast it should be, since for now others have decided to decide for you. However, if your going to make a choice, make it based on the truth, and the facts. And thats all im trying to do, give you the facts. If you read everything above and still think it should be illegal, then fine, I respect that. However, I cant stand all these people crying out against it, or anything for that matter, who dont have the slightest clue what there really speaking out about. No matter how well intentioned you are, if your actions are based on ignorance, they will lead to problems.

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Post by fyrtenheimer » Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:11 pm

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Post by Kamoc » Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:57 am

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this is my concerned face that is trying to make people believe that i am concerned about the topic at hand when in actuality i am not all too concerned.

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Post by Aetherfukz » Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:59 pm

TheRealNeoHentaiMaster wrote:I know this for sure because I have been both really high, and really drunk. Being really high I still could still think pretty clearly. Clearly enough not to do anything stupid atleast. When I was really drunk...well I dont want to talk about it, but lets just say my ability to tell the difference between "what is smart" and "what is a really retarded thing to do" wasnt quite working that well.
Yeah. Pretty much to the point! It really is so that alcohol makes you do more dangerous, and more "retarded" things. But when on weed, everything you do is just philosoph' about things, and chillin on the chouch... well that's what I do ^_^
I still would reccomend driving high, a recent study to show how weed impares driving ability, only ended up showing people who were high drove better(remember, the test was out to prove the opposite) Still though, dont drive stoned.
True. I once drove home from a prom at about 5 or 6 in the morning, still drunk from a heavy night (it was my graduation prom) and it was fucking bad! I couldn't see cleary, and tended to drive faster than normal. When on weed though, you tend to drive slower, because everthing around you is naturally going faster, and you know you're high and don't want any stress...
Also, contrary to what someone said above, weed is NOT physically addicting. Any addiction is mental, and for most people its not that bad. For example, when you quit smoking, you have to quit, forever. You cant go back to smoking once a week. If you do, youll just end up starting again. With weed though, I know lots of people who used to smoke a lot, but now keep it down to like once a month without difficulty. Are there people couldnt do that? Yeah, but there are people who can become addicted to anything. Its the person not the drug. You cant revolve laws around the lowest common denomitator, or no one will have any freedom.
Exactly what I said. What I think is the main problem, one of the few fundaments of democracy is and has always been, if you do something that doesn't harm another one, you are allowed to do it. So when you smoke weed, you don't harm anyone or anything. Well, maybe your lung but that's with smoking, not with weed. So the politicans don't allow the people to do things to their very own. What I try to say is, hell, NOBODY gets harmed by weed, and if somebody likes to smoke pot every day, who are we to say he shouldn't?

And another 2 cents from me: I used to smoke pot my last 2 years at school (no, I smoked at home ^_^), and in my year of graduation, I had the best grades EVAR! So, why shouldn't I smoke? I don't drink alcohol, but not because I think it is evil, just because I don't like the "style" of it.

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Post by fyrtenheimer » Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:29 pm

that's really funny that you say that because all the people in my old high school who got the great grades were the ones who did drugs, no joke




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Post by Mroni » Sun Dec 29, 2002 4:20 pm

Do whatever you guys want . I myself can be happy without inducing chemicals in my system.


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Post by MistyCaldwell » Sun Dec 29, 2002 4:37 pm

I was in a class with lots of people who smoked marijuana and the majority were the stereotype bad grade, absent minded though nice people and there were some who got decent grades too. I knew some honor students who tried it but I wasn't aware of them being regular users.

As for driving better, I also know of a car full that crashed in Zanesville Ohio that were quite high when they crashed.

In other words, the fact some people drive ok is probably because it isn't like alcohol but I've seen people who are high (at school no less!) that were very excited and not laid back. It depends on the person. Same with grades, so it makes little sense to use correlation when it's coincidence.
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