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Post by MaboroshiStudio » Thu May 08, 2014 6:09 am

re-categorization bah... prepares to burn this mother down! lol

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Post by Sephiroth » Thu May 08, 2014 6:15 am

Wow quite a few comedy got moved to 'comedy on the edge'.

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Post by MaboroshiStudio » Thu May 08, 2014 6:18 am

I still can't wait to see the finalists and if Trailer / Commercial will actually just be Parody II... which I hope it doesn't

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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu May 08, 2014 8:50 am

MaboroshiStudio wrote:I still can't wait to see the finalists and if Trailer / Commercial will actually just be Parody II... which I hope it doesn't
To be fair, "parody" as a concept doesn't require something to be funny or commedic in intent, its just that most people find humor in direct reference.

Most trailers and commercials, by definition, would be parodies of real movies / products or parodies of fake movies / products that are parodying the style or formula those advertisements take.
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Post by MaboroshiStudio » Thu May 08, 2014 9:15 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
MaboroshiStudio wrote:I still can't wait to see the finalists and if Trailer / Commercial will actually just be Parody II... which I hope it doesn't
To be fair, "parody" as a concept doesn't require something to be funny or commedic in intent, its just that most people find humor in direct reference.
I agree... I am just saying there is a parody category so I would be disappointed if Trailer / Commercial contains nothing but parody videos as well.

Most "trailers" even the serious ones are parodies and not a industry style trailer. Most take the audio from a movie trailer and make a play / correlation / twist on it with the anime. I honestly love these videos, but in the true sense of what a trailer is these videos are not that.

I really found it funny / odd that some people questioned me do you consider your Space Pirate Captain Harlock video a trailer? I would say look at the goal and consider the fact that when I created my video the movie was actually not released. I intended for it to be a trailer for the movie / to promote it so why in the world would I use audio from another movie??? I set out to make a trailer for Space Pirate Captain Harlock... and I have to say the response on YouTube has been great! My AMV is the 3rd most viewed trailer for the movie and it is wildly popular in Europe where Space Pirate Captain Harlock was shown in theaters. I mean are people going to tell me my video is not a trailer, because I don't have text / talking it it or that I didn't rip the audio from a trailer for another movie?

So I really question all these so called "trailers" using audio from another movie... are they really trailers or just parodies? I say they are parody videos for the very reason I noted about in my video. When I created my Escaflowne Movie video for AWA Masters over a decade ago... it had no text or VO, but I made it to be a trailer for the movie which was still in the theaters in Japan. I was told when the people at Bandai USA saw it they remarked oh cool is this the Japanese trailer for the movie? I guess I should note that I also went on to cut trailers for Bandai a long time ago so I have a different view and I am a dinosaur from a different time.

I feel like Steve Rogers... after a decade of not editing AMVs I have woken up to a strange world lol
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Post by BasharOfTheAges » Thu May 08, 2014 9:33 am

Pragmaticly, next to nobody actually makes those types of fan-made series/movie adverts (I kinda did once), so if that were the criteria, the category just wouldn't happen due to lack of competition. I suppose the category could be named something more methodical and exact, but that might be seen as splitting hairs to most people.
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Post by MaboroshiStudio » Thu May 08, 2014 9:48 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Pragmaticly, next to nobody actually makes those types of fan-made series/movie adverts (I kinda did once), so if that were the criteria, the category just wouldn't happen due to lack of competition. I suppose the category could be named something more methodical and exact, but that might be seen as splitting hairs to most people.
So why two parody categories then? Makes no sense

Trailers / Commercial should be called Parody II...

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Post by Hagaren Viper » Thu May 08, 2014 4:00 pm

Whoops. Curse you Rule 9.

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Post by XStylus » Thu May 08, 2014 4:10 pm

MaboroshiStudio wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Pragmaticly, next to nobody actually makes those types of fan-made series/movie adverts (I kinda did once), so if that were the criteria, the category just wouldn't happen due to lack of competition. I suppose the category could be named something more methodical and exact, but that might be seen as splitting hairs to most people.
So why two parody categories then? Makes no sense

Trailers / Commercial should be called Parody II...
"Parody" encompasses a broad swath of things. "Trailers" are a sub-genre of Parodies, but we receive enough of them that we thought to present them in a more interesting way, thus the "Bonus Category" experiment that we're trying for this year. Trailers, in general, also have a hard time competing against other forms of parody. Last year "Testing is the Future" was in the same category as Trailers. It was like bringing a tactical nuke to a stick fight.

Categorization is an imperfect science. The method that we have decided to follow is not to focus on whether a video meets a dictionary-like categorical definition (as you seem to advocate), but rather to focus on placing entries in categories where A) There are other entries just like it with the same emotional/rhythmic/stylistic tone, and B) Where they will be the most competitive. This means we need to see what the crop of entries is like and then sort them accordingly, though we give the creator's category choice extreme weight in that.
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