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Post by EarthCurrent » Fri Jan 03, 2003 8:22 pm

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So Jewish folk can't sound like Hitler...hmmm...... :?
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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:01 am

Oh boy...

For starters...

Luke: Do you learn NOTHING? You did this last time, no one agreed, no one thought it was funny, in the end you just came out looking like a troll (ok...skip the looking like part...since a majority of your posts here can qualify as trolling)

Great Teacher Stone: "in fact this is not a video promoting Gundam it is in fact a trick to lure real gundam fans into seeing this video and possibly seeing the light that Gundam does in fact suck."
In the immortal words of Harrison Ford "What a vivid imagination you have"
Let me just state a few things right off the bat
1) I personally like Gundam
2) I had no intention of checking out the video under its deception name (partly because I've generally become more interested in the other timelines besides Wing)...after hearing what it really was, I was even less interested
3) How on Earth did you get the idea that you could use a bash video to shape people's opinions?...stop and ask yourself, if a fan of an anime downloads an AMV for a show they like, and they find it's a bash video of that series which thought is more likely to run through their mind:
a) Wow! This guy's right...this show really is awful!
b) Wow! That was stupid!
or
c) Bastard! That wasn't funny!
As a rule, I get the feeling you'll be seeing more of the latter two (in the offchance you should chances are they're more than likely being sarcastic with you)

Now then Luke & GTS...I'm going to ask a question to the both of you...
Would it be too much strain to explain WHY you hate Gundam?
So far I have seen no explanation from either of you, rather you just simply state "Gundam sucks"
As a rule, I try to respect other peoples' opinions, however, if you have no way of backing your own opinion, perhaps it's time to rethink just why you are of this opinion.

OK...venting done for now...

p.s. As a rule, falsely advertising a video to get others to watch it, from what I've seen, does more damage for one's credibility than good
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Post by Great Teacher Stone » Sat Jan 04, 2003 2:04 am

well lets sum up my feelings thus far in one objective portion that will be followed by the reasons that gundam sucks

Basically I made this video because I hate gundam, my friends hate gundam, and I know that others out there hate gundam, and I wanted to show my hatred in a simple yet funny way. Thus this video was created, mainly for my humor and the the humor of my friends. In reality I don't even care if people like gundam. and I don't think that it says anything bad about my character that I would like to stir up some fine conversation by trying to get real gundam fans to see the video. obviously they won't change thier opinion just from the video, but who really cares, it's just a big joke, and I think that if you dislike gundam then you get the joke thats all there is to it. I don't knock anyway that doesn't mock me, so if you wanna download the video then go for it, but if your a hardcore G wing fan then you probably won't like it. Anyway thats my shpeel for today.

reasons I hate gundam wing (* indicates that it is for all of the gundam things not just wing)

1) the plot seems to be made up as they go along, there is a bad guy then a badder bad guy appears and an even badder bad guy and it just doesn't work. It just makes me wanna puke. then they have the characters who have established motives (although they are very shallow and often meaningless) but decided that the plot that doesn't make sence is more important than the motives oof the character and just have them do things that they normally would not

2*) the art style is poop, looks and smells like poop (just my opinion)

3*) the fights are outrageously lame and predictable, if you are a main char and you are fight a non main char time till victory = 5 seconds (often just by showing a zoomed out picture of everyone besides the main character exploding) and if the match up is main char vs main char then the battle takes forever and often has no victor

4) the dialogue is attempting to be witty but falls short of average. No one ever says what they should. they either make an overly bold statement not worthy of the situation or they make a horrible understatement/metaphor that is not worth saying in the particular situation

5*)absolutely NO variety. the fights, dialogue and designs are all the same save some minor cosmetic changes, LAME, and this is often the case between gundam series's

anyway, the moral of the story is that you shouldn't hate me for making this video and falsly advertising it, you should hate me because I am better than you (esoteric joke)

and one more commment to the person that said robotech was cool
YOU LOSE

do you ask yourself "Why would I watch Macross when I could watch Macross without the original names, the original scenes, the original dialogue or any spec of plot?
because if the answer is "no reason" then you can watch robotech, but why say that when you could say, "oh yeah I think I'll watch macross because robotech is just a slaughtered version of macross"

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Post by Heero_Yuy84 » Sat Jan 04, 2003 3:17 am

Great Teacher Stone wrote:well lets sum up my feelings thus far in one objective portion that will be followed by the reasons that gundam sucks

Basically I made this video because I hate gundam, my friends hate gundam, and I know that others out there hate gundam, and I wanted to show my hatred in a simple yet funny way. Thus this video was created, mainly for my humor and the the humor of my friends. In reality I don't even care if people like gundam. and I don't think that it says anything bad about my character that I would like to stir up some fine conversation by trying to get real gundam fans to see the video.
Nothing against your character, but as a rule, that generates more controversy than conversation.
obviously they won't change thier opinion just from the video, but who really cares, it's just a big joke, and I think that if you dislike gundam then you get the joke thats all there is to it. I don't knock anyway that doesn't mock me, so if you wanna download the video then go for it, but if your a hardcore G wing fan then you probably won't like it. Anyway thats my shpeel for today.
OK, I do apologize for getting a bit worked up over a joke vid, I respect the fact you're willing to stand by your opinion
reasons I hate gundam wing (* indicates that it is for all of the gundam things not just wing)

1) the plot seems to be made up as they go along, there is a bad guy then a badder bad guy appears and an even badder bad guy and it just doesn't work. It just makes me wanna puke. then they have the characters who have established motives (although they are very shallow and often meaningless) but decided that the plot that doesn't make sence is more important than the motives oof the character and just have them do things that they normally would not
In Wing, yeah, the writers definitely pulled it out of their asses. However, not all of the series are like this (for a prime example that won't sink too much of your time, look into Gundam 0080: War In The Pocket, no badder bad-guys popping up, characters with reasonable motives, and overall a pretty well put-together story)
2*) the art style is poop, looks and smells like poop (just my opinion)
OK, this is a matter of opinion...can't comment
3*) the fights are outrageously lame and predictable, if you are a main char and you are fight a non main char time till victory = 5 seconds (often just by showing a zoomed out picture of everyone besides the main character exploding) and if the match up is main char vs main char then the battle takes forever and often has no victor
Again, this sounds more like Wing's influence than anything. Some of the Universal Century series, such as Zeta Gundam and the original MSG, actually do more than just quick slaughter in 5 seconds. Some battles actually spanning multiple eps.
4) the dialogue is attempting to be witty but falls short of average. No one ever says what they should. they either make an overly bold statement not worthy of the situation or they make a horrible understatement/metaphor that is not worth saying in the particular situation
Again, this is more of a Wing issue, it's agreed most of the mock-philosophy is crap. Again, UC generally handles dialogue a lot better.
5*)absolutely NO variety. the fights, dialogue and designs are all the same save some minor cosmetic changes, LAME, and this is often the case between gundam series's
Here's one where I'm going to strongly disagree. For a prime example, G Gundam by comparsion to 08th MS Team, are quite different in many respects.
and one more commment to the person that said robotech was cool
YOU LOSE

do you ask yourself "Why would I watch Macross when I could watch Macross without the original names, the original scenes, the original dialogue or any spec of plot?
because if the answer is "no reason" then you can watch robotech, but why say that when you could say, "oh yeah I think I'll watch macross because robotech is just a slaughtered version of macross"
OK...now here's one we agree on
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Post by burntoast » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:41 am

Lemme just say, I watch Gundam: the 08th MS Team. Just cuz the animation's sweet, hands-down. :shock:

And uh, no the graphics do not smell nor look like poop, where ever you got that notion from..

GTStone, you should watch all of the gundam series before raggin on all of them. "It sux this, it sux that!" Well boo hoo.

Although I'm not a big gundam fan.. or even a gundam h8er, I do realize that some of the series have bad animation and maybe a below-average plot. They're not studio Ghibli d00d.

*Commands you to watch 08th Team* :x
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