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Post by Rozard » Thu Jan 16, 2003 5:23 pm

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Rozard wrote:The one you said to describe Asuka might work alright, but "Lucky" makes me want to drive foreign objects up my nostrils..
That's odd, because Lucky IS the one that I said to describe Asuka...
Which is why I made the comment. That song (being the one you said, "Lucky") could work for an Asuka tribute video, but the song is atrocious. I thought I made that sentence clear enough :?
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Rozard wrote:I don't see how people can love that song.
Umm... maybe because its lyrics are really moving and the music is better than 99% of the music out there... just a thought.
Yeah, like a bowel movement :roll: Honestly, how are these lyrics good? "Oh! I'm Miss Popular, and everyone caters to my whim! The world revolves around me! Mememememememememe! But why am I sad? Because no one loves me! I can have everything in the world but love! :cry: So sad!" Boo-fucking-hoo. And I do think sad is the appropriate word, but in a "pathetic" context. As for the comment about her music being 99% better than most of the stuff out there, I only have one comment: You must lead a sheltered life and don't listen to much music.
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Rozard wrote:I can't fathom how she became so popular. Oh yeah, that's right: she's pretty hot and has tits :roll:.
Actually, it's because a lot of her music is good. A lot of it is pretty bad too *cough*stupidslavesong*cough*, but you can say that about everyone.
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True, not every song artists make are going to be number one hits. Some plain suck, I have no argument there. Britney's music is just so bland and empty that it's not even worth listening to. I'm not the kind of person that attacks artists because they don't write their own music. However, I can attack Britney's singing abilities (which there isn't much of) and the writer's creativity (which is somewhat lacking). Listen to "Hit Me Baby" and the "Oops! I Did It Again." They're practically the same fucking song. It's c# minor, and it's basically:

i-----iiº--III--VI--vii--V----i (repeat) [That's a chord progression, for those who don't know]
the Black Monarch wrote:Lots of women on the planet are hot, but they don't all become popular performers. And for some reason, most of Britney's fans are female... so unless they're lesbians, I'm guessing it's the music.
Here's another though: Emulation. The tennie-boppers want nothing more than to be her because all the guys think she's hot. That's why they love her, and to an extent, they mask it by listening to her music. I'm not saying they don't like her music initially, but in order to be more like her (not to mention fit in with all the other girls who adore her) they buy her music and go to her shows. Shows, not concerts.

Have you noticed the way little girls are dressing nowadays? If you're Mroni, I'm sure you have noticed a lot :P But my point is that they're wearing less and less, and they're acting like Elementary School sexpots. And it's because they're emulating what's popular. Madonna, Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, Cindy Lauper; in the eighties all the girls tried to emulate them. It's the same fucking thing, except their music was better. That's another thing: Since MTV came around, the focus has been more on the artist's appearance than their music (and you can't deny that). But I'm getting off topic...
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Rozard wrote:Anyhow, I've seen one good Britney AMV, and that would be You Choose Sam, The Rest's one, using "Oops! I Did It Again" to Love Hina.
Watch the CBB/Overprotected one.
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Post by the Black Monarch » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:00 pm

Rozard wrote: Which is why I made the comment. That song (being the one you said, "Lucky") could work for an Asuka tribute video, but the song is atrocious. I thought I made that sentence clear enough :?
When you say "the song that such-and-such" without naming the song, and then you name a song, it sounds like you're referring to two different songs.
Rozard wrote:Yeah, like a bowel movement :roll: Honestly, how are these lyrics good? "Oh! I'm Miss Popular, and everyone caters to my whim! The world revolves around me! Mememememememememe! But why am I sad? Because no one loves me! I can have everything in the world but love! :cry: So sad!" Boo-fucking-hoo. And I do think sad is the appropriate word, but in a "pathetic" context.
If you try like that, you can make anything look bad. That doesn't mean it really is, though. Just look at all those Star Wars parodies for proof. The subject matter of "lucky" is more orignal than 99% of pop and rock I've heard, and deeper than 99% of pop and metal that I've heard. The line "But tell me, what happens when it stops?" is one of the best I've ever heard in music.
Rozard wrote:As for the comment about her music being 99% better than most of the stuff out there, I only have one comment: You must lead a sheltered life and don't listen to much music.
I listened to an ungodly huge amount of new music a few years ago, and even today I learn at least two new songs per week. Earlier this month, I discovered that I like Iron Maiden, especially "Fear of the Dark".
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What? When was anyone trying to be funny?
Rozard wrote:True, not every song artists make are going to be number one hits. Some plain suck, I have no argument there. Britney's music is just so bland and empty that it's not even worth listening to. I'm not the kind of person that attacks artists because they don't write their own music. However, I can attack Britney's singing abilities (which there isn't much of) and the writer's creativity (which is somewhat lacking). Listen to "Hit Me Baby" and the "Oops! I Did It Again." They're practically the same fucking song.
Actually, "Oops!" is much more closely related to "What you see is what you get" than it is to "...one more time." Also, both "Oops!" and "What you see" are based on a Barbara Streisand song that I can't remember. Betcha didn't know that. As for Britney's singing, I saw a documentary on her a few months a go, and it turns out that she is actually able to sing a HELL of a lot better than she does on her albums. I don't know what happened. Usually, puberty makes your voice lower, not higher. I think it's related to one of her trainers who thought that she sung "well, but not correctly." I'd like to hear her today sing like she used to, just once, to prove that she really can sing. Alas, someone is putting a foot in her way.
Rozard wrote:Have you noticed the way little girls are dressing nowadays? If you're Mroni, I'm sure you have noticed a lot :P But my point is that they're wearing less and less, and they're acting like Elementary School sexpots.
I was a special guest teacher at a 5th grade classroom quite recently, and all of the girls seemed quite reasonably clothed.
Rozard wrote:And it's because they're emulating what's popular. Madonna, Paula Abdul, Janet Jackson, Cindy Lauper; in the eighties all the girls tried to emulate them. It's the same fucking thing, except their music was better. That's another thing: Since MTV came around, the focus has been more on the artist's appearance than their music (and you can't deny that). But I'm getting off topic...
Actually, I think Janet's music sucks compared to Britney's... and I've only heard one song by Paula Abdul and two by Cindy Lauper. If you want to see pathetic lyrics, listen to "She Bop" sometimes. I've heard that it's some obscure reference to female masturbation, but I could never understand the words, so I wouldn't know.
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Post by Koopiskeva » Thu Jan 16, 2003 11:04 pm

Perhaps you should perhaps until you perhaps into perhapalitic perhappiness.

Umm, ya... that video still rips off from another person's video. :?
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Post by Knowname » Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:07 am

Rozard wrote:God, I would kill myself before I watched a Eva video set to Britney Spears
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yeah ALU has an AWESOME Nsync/ CB vid, I don't just use songs I like... I judge the concept, I can usually take the song (such as Bobby Brown's 'My perogitive' mixed with Christopher Williams' 'Talk to myself' to chobits... I don't like the anime, I don't like the song (EITHER of em) but it's gonna be SOOO funny (bobby brown says 'cause gettin girls is what I do'... yea from the dumpster lolo! MUHAHAHAHA)

A good example of a video with a song that sucks that's awesome is that divorce vid by that avi chick that looks like a crack-whore (Sarah Connor T2 comes to mind) on MTV... horrible song, pretty crappy/ sappy video but together it's awesome imo.

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Post by Rozard » Fri Jan 17, 2003 1:28 am

the Black Monarch wrote:When you say "the song that such-and-such" without naming the song, and then you name a song, it sounds like you're referring to two different songs.
I wonder how many other people were confused by what I initially wrote. I think I made enough inference for the reader to pick up on my meaning, but I guess many people, like me, don't really care.
the Black Monarch wrote:If you try like that, you can make anything look bad. That doesn't mean it really is, though. Just look at all those Star Wars parodies for proof. The subject matter of "lucky" is more orignal than 99% of pop and rock I've heard, and deeper than 99% of pop and metal that I've heard. The line "But tell me, what happens when it stops?" is one of the best I've ever heard in music.
When did we start talking about Star Wars parodies? What kind of analogy is that, anyway? I was simplifying the message of the song (with a point of view, mind you), and you come back with the comment "Just look at all those Star Wars parodies for proof?" What do you even mean by that? As for the subject matter of "Lucky" being original, I never said that it wasn't. But then again, how many other artists could come out with a song about being the center of the world's attention, yet having no one to love, yet not realizing that's why she's sad? And please, if you have a different interpretation of the lyrics, share them here, because I'd be interested to hear what you think the song means. Now, on the subject of "Lucky" being deep, that's bullshit. I don't know what causes you to think this song is deep in any aspect. I observe it as shallow, which is the opposite of deep if you didn't know. How vain can someone be if they're on top of the world, yet complaining about her problems? I'm not even going to bring up the whole "99% or pop and metal" you said, but I have to say something about that line being one of the best lyrics you've ever heard. For me, that title's reserved for lines like "Yesterday/Love was such an easy game to play/Now I need some place to hide away/Oh, I believe in Yesterday" and "Purple haze all in my brain/Lately things just don't seem the same/Actin' funny, but I don't know why/'Scuse me while I kiss the sky." As for one of the best lyrics I've heard recently, "Century opens like we're breaking yellow tape at the scene/Of something criminal, beyond obscene/Caught just a glimpse, another rubbernecker rocketing past/All perpetrators, or refugees?" Burning Airlines - Identikit
the Black Monarch wrote:I listened to an ungodly huge amount of new music a few years ago, and even today I learn at least two new songs per week. Earlier this month, I discovered that I like Iron Maiden, especially "Fear of the Dark".
Is that supposed to impress me? "An ungodly huge amount." Wow, that's astounding. I would think with that much in your repertoire, you would choose to listen to something more satisfying and engaging.
the Black Monarch wrote:What? When was anyone trying to be funny?
Well, the "She's pretty hot and has tits" comment, accompanied with the :roll: emoticon could classify as humor, but I guess you missed that.
the Black Monarch wrote: for Britney's singing, I saw a documentary on her a few months a go, and it turns out that she is actually able to sing a HELL of a lot better than she does on her albums. I don't know what happened. Usually, puberty makes your voice lower, not higher.
She's female, and she's older than I am (almost 20) so she's done with puberty. In fact, she was almost finished with puberty when he first album came out, so I don't see how her voice changed because of it. It could be because of drinking and smoking, but I'm not going to speculate into her extracurricular activities.
the Black Monarch wrote:I was a special guest teacher at a 5th grade classroom quite recently, and all of the girls seemed quite reasonably clothed.
Many schools have come down hard on the dress/behavior. Besides, what kind of school? Private/Public? Where is this school located? It could be balls cold (which hasn't stopped girls at my old school before :?) Besides, one instance doesn't constitute finality. I work at a grocery store, and every day children come in with their parents, so I see this about every day.
the Black Monarch wrote:Actually, I think Janet's music sucks compared to Britney's... and I've only heard one song by Paula Abdul and two by Cindy Lauper. If you want to see pathetic lyrics, listen to "She Bop" sometimes. I've heard that it's some obscure reference to female masturbation, but I could never understand the words, so I wouldn't know.
You'd choose Britney over Janet? Janet paved the way for Britney and has more talent than her. Hell, I think Janet is even hotter than Britney. As for the other artists, how can you pass judgment from just one or two songs? By the way, in case you're interested, here are the lyrics to "She Bop." I can see how it could be a reference to masturbating.
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Post by the Black Monarch » Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:08 pm

Rozard wrote: I wonder how many other people were confused by what I initially wrote. I think I made enough inference for the reader to pick up on my meaning, but I guess many people, like me, don't really care.
I had to care, otherwise I wouldn't know whether or not you were wrong.
Rozard wrote:When did we start talking about Star Wars parodies? What kind of analogy is that, anyway? I was simplifying the message of the song (with a point of view, mind you), and you come back with the comment "Just look at all those Star Wars parodies for proof?" What do you even mean by that?
I mean that just because you can make fun of (or "simplify," in your words) something, that doesn't make it as bad as you try to make it look. I thought that was pretty clear.
Rozard wrote:As for the subject matter of "Lucky" being original, I never said that it wasn't. But then again, how many other artists could come out with a song about being the center of the world's attention, yet having no one to love, yet not realizing that's why she's sad? And please, if you have a different interpretation of the lyrics, share them here, because I'd be interested to hear what you think the song means.
No, I don't have a different interpretation of them, I just have a greater appreciation of them. The song doesn't actually say why Lucky is sad, it just says that fame and glory (where have I heard that before...?) don't guarantee happiness. That's more than what you hear out of most performers, who sing (if it can be called that, which often it can't) about either (a) love, (b) hate, or (c) themselves and how great they are. Come on, ANYONE can write about that.
Rozard wrote:Now, on the subject of "Lucky" being deep, that's bullshit. I don't know what causes you to think this song is deep in any aspect. I observe it as shallow, which is the opposite of deep if you didn't know. How vain can someone be if they're on top of the world, yet complaining about her problems?
At what point was Lucky vain? Did the song ever say that she admired herself in the mirror for hours, or ordered all of the purple Skittles removed from the bowl, or did anything else indicating that she was vain? No. The story was not told from Lucky's point of view. The song is about the public's perception and admiration of her, their belief that she must be happy because she is a celebrity, and why that belief is false. It's about rejection of materialism and learning the hard way about what's important in life.
Rozard wrote:I'm not even going to bring up the whole "99% or pop and metal" you said, but I have to say something about that line being one of the best lyrics you've ever heard. For me, that title's reserved for lines like "Yesterday/Love was such an easy game to play/Now I need some place to hide away/Oh, I believe in Yesterday"
Translation: "I can't get some anymore, so I'll live in the past"
Rozard wrote:and "Purple haze all in my brain/Lately things just don't seem the same/Actin' funny, but I don't know why/'Scuse me while I kiss the sky."
Translation: "Whee, I'm high on drugs!"
Rozard wrote:As for one of the best lyrics I've heard recently, "Century opens like we're breaking yellow tape at the scene/Of something criminal, beyond obscene/Caught just a glimpse, another rubbernecker rocketing past/All perpetrators, or refugees?" Burning Airlines - Identikit
Translation: "The future is going to suck"
Rozard wrote:Is that supposed to impress me? "An ungodly huge amount." Wow, that's astounding. I would think with that much in your repertoire, you would choose to listen to something more satisfying and engaging.
I do. I listen to songs that are much less interesting than the ones I've mentioned, too. I even listened (voluntarily) to a Limp Bizkit song earlier today that I thought sucked, just because it was there and I wanted to listen to something that I don't normally hear. Most of the time, though, I stick with my "Tier One" songs.
Rozard wrote:Well, the "She's pretty hot and has tits" comment, accompanied with the :roll: emoticon could classify as humor, but I guess you missed that.
Oh, that. yeah, that was pretty lame.
Rozard wrote:She's female, and she's older than I am (almost 20) so she's done with puberty. In fact, she was almost finished with puberty when he first album came out, so I don't see how her voice changed because of it. It could be because of drinking and smoking, but I'm not going to speculate into her extracurricular activities.
I don't think she smoked when she was twelve... I also don't see what you're trying to say.
Rozard wrote:Many schools have come down hard on the dress/behavior. Besides, what kind of school? Private/Public? Where is this school located? It could be balls cold (which hasn't stopped girls at my old school before :?)
Public school, and it was a warm day. FYI, the public schools here don't enforce dress codes very well. I once saw a High Schooler with the words "Senior Cleavage" written in ink across her chest (just under her neck), with an arrow pointing downward and aforementioned cleavage quite visible. And there were all those beer shirts that the dress code had a specific rule against... and the backless shirts... and the bazillion other things...
Rozard wrote:Besides, one instance doesn't constitute finality. I work at a grocery store, and every day children come in with their parents, so I see this about every day.
Yeah, but you live in Florida. Of course people there will be dressing lightly.
Rozard wrote:You'd choose Britney over Janet? Janet paved the way for Britney and has more talent than her.
I don't know what you mean by "choose," but it was Madonna, not Janet, who "paved the way" for Britney. And I've yet to meet a Janet song that has any kind of melody that I can detect. Not that I've heard a great deal of Janet's songs, mind you, but I've heard a few, none of which I liked.
Rozard wrote:Hell, I think Janet is even hotter than Britney.
She definitely has better abs :) I'm not too sure about the rest, though. Both have as-yet undetermined amounts of makeup, plastic, and/or silicone. If Janet is anything like her brother when it comes to makeup... well, I'd rather not think about that.
Rozard wrote:As for the other artists, how can you pass judgment from just one or two songs?
I can't pass judgement on the artists, but I did pass judgement on the songs that I'd heard. I'm entitled to that much, aren't I?
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Perhaps we should stop this whole "perhaps" thing, it's getting kind of stupid...
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Post by the Black Monarch » Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:14 pm

Koopiskeva wrote: Perhaps you should perhaps until you perhaps into perhapalitic perhappiness.
Perhaps I will.
Koopiskeva wrote:Umm, ya... that video still rips off from another person's video. :?
Perhaps I don't care.
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Post by Koopiskeva » Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:39 pm

Perhaps you should. :?
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Post by RichLather » Sat Jan 18, 2003 12:06 am

christ on a crutch, this thread went downhill fast.

And yes, I plan on doing an Evangelion video myself this year, and one of the groups mentioned here is who I plan on using.

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Post by Rozard » Sat Jan 18, 2003 6:47 pm

Black Monarch, I say we just end this troll. Both of us are steadfast in our opinions, and will not bend to the other. And when it all comes down to it, that's what they are: opinions. I don't see myself changing your views anytime soon, and I can guarentee you that you won't change mine. If you do continue, you won't get a response from me. To be brutally honest, I cease to care. What you do is fine for you, but somehow I feel that you find this argument tiresome as well.

Mods, if you would, cut out our whole section. I guess put it in WOT :?
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