Beta tapes

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:01 am

Obviously no one here uses them for recording TV shows off their satalite.

If I walk into my local Fred Meyer store here. Is spy a $60 VHS VCR and a bunch of VHS tapes on the cheap.

I don't see a fucking trace of Beta anywhere in that store. I doubt many A/V stores are going to carry video beta tapes. The cloest Fry's is a 20minute drive and I am not sure if they even carry them at this Fry's.

It's just, ANY MAGENETIC MEDIA IS BOUND TO FAIL SOONER OR LATER.

Your TV shows will probably look like ass in 20yrs if you can even hook them up to a TV in 20yrs.

You're most likely going to lose interest in this project within a few months. Seeing as how you like to splatter the forums with stupid and useless threads like a child with ADD after eating too many popsicles. I don't think your attention will hold out.

If I really wanted to record shit off the TV and save it(BTW I can't find much shit worth saving off the TV since most of it is shit). I will just buy 4pack of tapes and then put it back in it's cover and place it in a cool, dry, dark place for all eternity. Just because one VHS tape failed doesn't mean all VHS tapes fail. I have abused and copied over a blank VHS tape a bunch of times already and it still looks FINE.

Just the thought that you're going to go out of your way to make it as much of a pain in the ass as possible all for TV shows that you're probably never going to watch again seems completely idiotic and stupid. :\

Most people have VHS decks because in the last 10 -15yrs all new releases have been VHS! When was the last time you saw something released using Beta?? Yeah. So why would we have a bunch of people who already have a perfectly capable VHS recorder run out and buy a Beta deck just so they can record their shows off the TV?

Also VHS is not shit, VHS still looks GOOD ENOUGH and the fact that it has lasted so long is testament to that. Sure it wasn't as good as Beta, but it atleasted allowed people to watch movies in their homes.

DVD has now eclipsed home Beta & VHS decks, so they're starting to die out. But anyways. VHS is not "OMG TEH SUX0RZ".

This thread might as well been titled "LOOK AT ME I AM FOOL, WATCH ME WASTE MONEY ON POINTLESS SHIT".

~klinky

melezov · Post by **melezov** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:50 am

Hey, people.. calm down..

Dear CaTaClYsM, you really should quit this debate becouse it's quite pointless. If you really love Beta that's absolutely fine by me and I doubt anyone here is going to stop you from purchasing the equipment.

But you can't expect everyone on this forum to CONVERT! (cross held high) just becouse of your belief. What's the purpose of arguing?

Do you really think people will see "the light" if you just yelled it from the rooftops?

51 posts should suffice for this thread.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:30 pm

klinky wrote:Obviously no one here uses them for recording TV shows off their satalite.

If I walk into my local Fred Meyer store here. Is spy a $60 VHS VCR and a bunch of VHS tapes on the cheap.

I don't see a fucking trace of Beta anywhere in that store. I doubt many A/V stores are going to carry video beta tapes. The cloest Fry's is a 20minute drive and I am not sure if they even carry them at this Fry's.

It's just, ANY MAGENETIC MEDIA IS BOUND TO FAIL SOONER OR LATER.

Your TV shows will probably look like ass in 20yrs if you can even hook them up to a TV in 20yrs.

You're most likely going to lose interest in this project within a few months. Seeing as how you like to splatter the forums with stupid and useless threads like a child with ADD after eating too many popsicles. I don't think your attention will hold out.

If I really wanted to record shit off the TV and save it(BTW I can't find much shit worth saving off the TV since most of it is shit). I will just buy 4pack of tapes and then put it back in it's cover and place it in a cool, dry, dark place for all eternity. Just because one VHS tape failed doesn't mean all VHS tapes fail. I have abused and copied over a blank VHS tape a bunch of times already and it still looks FINE.

Just the thought that you're going to go out of your way to make it as much of a pain in the ass as possible all for TV shows that you're probably never going to watch again seems completely idiotic and stupid. :\

Most people have VHS decks because in the last 10 -15yrs all new releases have been VHS! When was the last time you saw something released using Beta?? Yeah. So why would we have a bunch of people who already have a perfectly capable VHS recorder run out and buy a Beta deck just so they can record their shows off the TV?

Also VHS is not shit, VHS still looks GOOD ENOUGH and the fact that it has lasted so long is testament to that. Sure it wasn't as good as Beta, but it atleasted allowed people to watch movies in their homes.

DVD has now eclipsed home Beta & VHS decks, so they're starting to die out. But anyways. VHS is not "OMG TEH SUX0RZ".

This thread might as well been titled "LOOK AT ME I AM FOOL, WATCH ME WASTE MONEY ON POINTLESS SHIT".

~klinky

oh so you're saying that in 20 years my beta tapes are going to look like shit in 20 years? even if I can hook it up to my TV? well my 400 lines of resolution arent going to look nearly as shitty as the 250 you have on your VHS tapes. And btw, I have 20 year old beta tapes, and they looked great the last time I checked them. Meanwhile any VHS tape with anything that wasn't recorded in SP is crap before it's even finished recording.

oh, and about VHS being good enough. If VHS were 'good enough' then why the hell is it that DVD has suddenly gotten so popular? is it maybe because of the image and audio quality? And people actually might want a better picture than VHS's 250 lines or resolution? Hell if we shoud stick to something that you say is 'good enough' then I should use VHS tapes to watch my movies, VHS source footage for my AMV'S, hell I might was well return my DVD player since there is no point in having it, seeing as how you said "VHS IS GOOD ENOUGH".

This thread might as well been titled "LOOK AT ME I AM FOOL, WATCH ME WASTE MONEY ON POINTLESS SHIT".

no, that should be the title of your post, since you , along with the rest of the county, bought VHS's

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:36 pm

melezov wrote:Hey, people.. calm down..

Dear CaTaClYsM, you really should quit this debate becouse it's quite pointless. If you really love Beta that's absolutely fine by me and I doubt anyone here is going to stop you from purchasing the equipment.

But you can't expect everyone on this forum to CONVERT! (cross held high) just becouse of your belief. What's the purpose of arguing?

Do you really think people will see "the light" if you just yelled it from the rooftops?

51 posts should suffice for this thread.

if you will go through and read this thread post ofr post you will actually see what the fuck is going on. I asked," does anyone else here use beta tapes?" and said I was going to be getting one.
then the beta bashing fest began, and with you know who

klinky wrote:You probably be better off just getting a TiVo :\

~klinky

then he later posts again, like the forum god he thinks he is telling me how to spend my money

klinky wrote:Dude :O

Just get a $60 VHS 2head VCR and a 4-pack of VHS tapes for $6. :\

Beta is just going to cost you more and really, I doubt you'd notice the quality improvements.

~klinky

I have not been trying to convert anyone, or anything like that but with posts like this

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Get a fooking VHS then.

Betamax is obsolete, Sony announced that about 6 months ago. It's a good format, but cannot live up to today's standards.

For example, my mom has a beta tape of "The Breakfast Club", which she recorded off TV a good 10-12 years ago. It's watchable, but has static on the top and bottom of the screen, etc.

The tape is stored in her video tape cabinet with her other 2-3 dozen tapes. (VHS and Betamax)

and the one shown above, I am not going to sit there and listen to their, beta is crap routine. Beta IS better than VHS, I am going to get one, if you don't like it then DEAL WITH IT.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:50 pm

Hey man,

All I know is beta is more exspensive and much less convient, if you want to spend your money on this by all means do so.

My opinion and what I would do is just get a VHS deck and some VHS tapes for real cheap. I already have a VHS player/recorder, I wouldn't even need to buy a new deck if I wanted to.

You somehow think beta is going to be all that much better then VHS...

It's not going to produce results that are worth the price and trouble. But you can be convienced otherwise.

So you just do so and enjoy wasting your money :\

~klinky

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:52 pm

Also I should note that many TV shows are now coming out on DVD, in box sets. This is going to look alot better then a Beta tape could hope to achieve, it doesn't have some sort of network logo in the lower right and you're supporting the series you so love so much.

You'd be better off just buying the DVDs, if when they come available. If it's worthwhile series, there will be DVDs eventually.

~klinky

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:56 pm

It's not going to produce results that are worth the price and trouble. But you can be convienced otherwise.

a beta player would cost me ten fucking dollars more and for another 150 lines of resolution and tapes that will last 20+ years. if 10 bucks is too much for 150 more lines of uncompressed resolution and tapes that last 20 years I don't know WHAT to buy anymore. In fact, I wouldn't need to buy a third player is some 4 year olds that shall remain unnamed didn't try to feed the damned thing french fries.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 1:59 pm

klinky wrote:Also I should note that many TV shows are now coming out on DVD, in box sets. This is going to look alot better then a Beta tape could hope to achieve, it doesn't have some sort of network logo in the lower right and you're supporting the series you so love so much.

You'd be better off just buying the DVDs, if when they come available. If it's worthwhile series, there will be DVDs eventually.

~klinky

I do plan to get DVD sets of my favorite shows, but I doubt they all are, and to make matters worse, I probably wont be able to buy them all, season one of law and order is on my list, but until the other 10 or 11 or however many there are come out, I'll stick to my beta tapes, and if I get the DVD set of a show I like later on, I'll just do what anyone else would, record over the damned shows with something else.

Mr Pilkington · Post by **Mr Pilkington** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:08 pm

Dude! CaT! Seriously! Chill. Don't blow all your cash on Beta. For the same price as the upkeep and Tapes you could get you a cheep DVD-R. Or hell, at the current C:Q (Cost:Quality ratio) get you a +RW. It really would smarter than blowing your wad on a Beta. I mean good god man! Sure I use beta but that's only because I have had a player since the mid 80's. And it's not like I use it for editing (anymore), I prefer DVD quality for my videos. So take the opinions of the ones around as constructive criticism. Please we beg of you, don't waste your money.

PLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEEEEEE....

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Jan 22, 2003 2:11 pm

Mr Pilkington wrote:Dude! CaT! Seriously! Chill. Don't blow all your cash on Beta. For the same price as the upkeep and Tapes you could get you a cheep DVD-R. Or hell, at the current C:Q (Cost:Quality ratio) get you a +RW. It really would smarter than blowing your wad on a Beta. I mean good god man! Sure I use beta but that's only because I have had a player since the mid 80's. And it's not like I use it for editing (anymore), I prefer DVD quality for my videos. So take the opinions of the ones around as constructive criticism. Please we beg of you, don't waste your money.

PLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEEEEEE....

know where I could get a good DVD RW drive for 70 bucks?

AnimeMusicVideos.org

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